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Bill C-5 just became law with ZERO new changes. Here's what that means (it's not good) (i.ytimg.com)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I'm upset that more deference to House MPs' summer vacation was given in the Senate than the potential impact to our rights.

I'm still cautiously optimistic about Bill C-5 (though Bill C-2 needs to either be scrapped or massively reworked IMO), since there could be bills to amend the laws again, or matters of discretion that come out of this summer's consultation.

The power is in the government now in law, but the civil and legal pushback will come depending on how forceful the government attempts to use this newly gained power.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

any time a government is trying to fast track a bill, every resident should be paying special attention; no matter their party of choice.

pretty crazy that this came from the Liberals

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

pretty crazy that this came from the Liberals

Not really. Setting aside the obvious "liberalism is the precursor to fascism," this is simply modern day colonialism, and when have liberals ever opposed colonialism?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

good grief. you either have a DEEP misunderstanding of the words "liberalism" and "fascism" or you're a troll.

or perhaps a descendant of Mussolini?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Uh... We are literally in a thread about that in action. The next time conservatives are in power they'll be very thankful the liberals passed this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

yes we are in a thread, and we are witnessing some fascism from the Liberals, but that doesn't make your statement true. did you come over here from 4chan?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The country got hoodwinked. So distracted by Poilievre that they snuck another Harper creature in to lead the Liberals.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I don't think there was any distraction. We had two shit choices and NDP. And since this country fails to elect NDP time after time, it was a given that we were pretty fucked. The main difference during this election between the parties that I saw were:

The Liberal platform didn't contradict itself every point or two
The Liberal platform focused a lot more on domestic tourism, accessibility, and making it easier to transport our own goods across provincial borders.

I don't see how bill C-5 fits into any of the platform they put forward.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Everyone hates Trump so much but have learned nothing. Don't you get it? Parties are just a tool for populists, and that is exactly what Carney is.

I am definitely not a communist but didn't Marx say something about false consciousness? Keep worshiping the rich because they are on your "team" and you'll pay for it. Yeah elect a billionaire to fight another billionaire and the people are somehow going to benefit? It's ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I am a communist and he did say something like that yeah. It had more to do with believing you understand why the working class struggles how it does because of some internal or external enemy corrupting the "pure nation" instead of class relations

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think had we had a minority Conservative gouvernent with a strong NDP opposition, we would be in a much better situation.

I hate the conservatives but fuck the liberals for being dishonest hypocritical pieces of shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The bourgeois parties are always hypocrites. They pretend to serve the people while their only material interest is capital. Give the manifesto a shot or if you don't want to read, listen to this speech by my favorite man. It changed my perspective on the world, genuinely.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

WTF is happening in the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

It is the beginning of the end.

Something something reset.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So... it's possible the government might do something bad in the future, so we need to outraged about it now?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep.

Being complacent about how laws and ruling are currently being used, instead of being concerned about how they can be used, is why we've seen abortion bans and restrictions in the USA in recent years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That happened because Americans developed a general paranoia of the government, and since the GOP was better at mobilizing the paranoid vote than the Democrats they started losing rights.

People in the US are generally angry at the Democrats for being incapable of doing anything so they voted for Trump in the false hope that things would change. Or not voting at all because the internet told them the whole system is broken (PP kind of messaging). But I guess changes happened, but not anything positive.

The left seems have become more like what conservatives used to be like. Opposing the government on any change in favour of symbolic traditionalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems like a no lose scenario for the Liberals: Courts will strike this down and the Liberals take another talking point away from the Conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

That's... An excessively optimistic interpretation, to say the least.

[+] [email protected] -36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wow, theyre prioritizing the well being of the country over the environment and indigenous people?

Its like they're finally trying to keep us in a first world standard of living; because they were about to be destroyed as a party entirely if they did not.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Your well being depends on the environment and any improvement to your well being should not come at a detriment to the people your country colonized and genocided.

Environmental protection acts do not exist to protect the environment. They exist to protect you from what business owners will do to your environment in the name of profit seeking.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Promised actions of good should never come at the expense of any singular group, minority, people.

In addition destroying our land to fuel the economic engine will only benefit capitalist systems and corporations.

I've yet to see how this would sustainably benefit foreign people in their own country so to import this into Canada seems ridiculous.

[+] [email protected] -25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

Its an export of a product, which derives tax revenue, which derives income taxes, which results in government programs to help the poor. Pretending like its not vital in our ecosystem is silly, its our food source, it provides us building materials, corporate exports give your dollar value and are the red blood cells of society.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

Lmao, the workers do not share in the profits of corporations. As if 😭

[+] [email protected] -25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Theyre literally paid out of the profits. You're spouting nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Revenue and profits are not the same thing. If you're going to abrasively assert stuff, at least don't be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Found the manager. Businesses pay employees as little as is legally possible in many cases while raking in huge profits.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You receive a miniscule percentage of the value you create for your employer. The employer needs profits to increase constantly in order to provide value to the shareholders. When the total value of the company increases you at best receive the same cut of the value your produce. Usually though, your percentage cut decreases relative to total value so that the employer can extract greater value as demanded by shareholders. You aren't paid out of the profits, they take a cut of the value you produce by virtue of owning the company. This is why wages do not increase proportionally to productivity. I am not spouting nonsense, you just aren't equipped to understand what I am saying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Employers expend the least amount of resources necessary in order to maximize their profits, this is a practice that is not only accepted but celebrated as being "good" for the economy. So workers should follow suit and expend the least amount of their skills and labour in order to maximize their profits. If it is acceptable at the scale of billions it should be acceptable on the scale of thousands.

There is no 'theft of time' from an entity that owns more than 1/4 (plus commute) of your life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Meow

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

It only benefits corporations huh, do you not work for a corporation yourself?

Fedecan is a nonprofit

I'm not paid to do anything

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Take from one group of poor people to benefit another group of poor people? That doesn't sound like a good thing to me.