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also downvoted for preferring democracy lol

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[–] lugal 129 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You can criticize the US without making other authoritarian states look good. Both can be bad

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

Their bodies have adapted so well to boot licking, they can actually get sick and die from shoe polish withdrawal. That's the only rational explanation I can come up with.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Reality is a team sport, to some people. They have no objective means of evaluating claims. In their worldview, that is not what claims are for.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any country that says that they don't have any "homeless or beggars" is either lying, or killing people on the street.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Or living in a labour camp.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

The part they don't like talking about is the police approach homeless people in China and give them the option to either do whatever job tbey are given or go to prison and dissapear.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

also look at these weird ass rules. This is for the "korea" community

Insecure much?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I love how this kinds of communities describe themselfes as welcome to discussion and the write all the "facts" as a rule and everybody who says anything els gets banned.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Yeah, I don't really understand why tankies pretend to be liberals so much. So many of their communities are all like 'discussion welcome!'

But of course it isn't actually welcome. I've noticed that it's special to tankies, and that other extremists openly embrace their ignorance.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

I like how this ignores that not only did the DPRK start the war, but the vast majority of the UN lined up behind South Korea, after the USSR stormed out of the security council meeting - they still had quorum, but the Soviets apparently assumed they didn’t, or would adjourn, or something. They didn’t. As a direct result, United Nations Command was established to specifically support South Korea in 1950.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If the "D"RPK is so great, why can't people leave?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

You know your country is a grade A shit hole where leaving brands you a traitor. Assuming you're successful that is, and don't get killed for trying.

[–] hopeleft 56 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I want every ml in the world to move to north korea or china or any country they stan so much and live there for the rest of their life so that they will feel how "great" and "democratic" these "utopias" are.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They absolutely can move to their favourite places. Iran, China, Russia -- But they never do. They're very lazy. Or perhaps deep down they know that their entire being is a trend that they latched onto to look better.

[–] FartMaster69 29 points 1 month ago (7 children)

If you ever bring it up they’ll say something along the lines of “well why don’t you pay for my move then”.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

I’ll pay for a one way ticket, the wonderful democratic utopia will provide them the rest.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

I'll chip in some dollars, lets crowdfund this!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I've found that they usually just quieten down, really odd.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry you had to go through so much hate.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It does feel bad, but I keep thinking about the people who don't know any better falling into that way of thinking. If there is at least one person in there questioning their circle jerk. I feel like it can save people a lot of trouble.

Thanks for creating this post! I think it also helps.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Women and Men receive the same payment for the same work

That payment? $24 per year.

That's not a joke. That is the real number at the black market exchange rate.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (3 children)

99,9% Alphabetization

list not in alphabetical order, straight to a ~~work camp~~ state funded retreat

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (4 children)

For anyone who like me was just confused and ignored it: They meant "literacy" but translated it badly.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

When they refer to South Korea as Occupied Korea, I almost can’t breathe from laughing.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Maximal working hour: 8 per day.

And how many days per week?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

10 for good citizens

20 in forced labor camps

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

It's not forced labor, comrade, you're free to exchange your work hours for torture sessions and reduced food rations!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

99.9% alphabetization

Why do tankies like to post poorly translated propaganda? Like at least take the time to localize that shit bruh wtf.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah sure, NK is a total utopia. Especially like the part where it says "Workers are the owner of the means of production" as if they didn't have one dictator that was in charge without anyone really having a choice.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That was one of the wildest comment chains I have read. If anybody is interested: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7781901

The only sane person I found in this post is @[email protected] lmao

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can't believe they choose North Korea out of all places

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (49 children)

They love authoritarianism, they're bootlickers, so they latch onto Russia, China and North Korea. They completely ignore real communist countries like Cuba or Vietnam.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

99.9% alphabetization? This is what the USA has been missing. The founding fathers failed us.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This I think is the indictment of the U.S.'s public education.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why can't we just agree that both the US and DPRK are undemocratic?

🤦

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

The US is currently hybrid regime, DPRK is, and has been, a full totalitarian regime for the past few decades.

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