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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763330

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763328

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/6137607

now users must use VPN for login lemmy.ml

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[–] [email protected] 214 points 2 years ago (28 children)

I'm not happy with this development, but I'm slightly amused by the irony being that lemmy.ml is pro-china and has been moderated as such.

[–] Cqrd 196 points 2 years ago

Hexbear might as well be the CCP propaganda wing, this development is fucking hilarious

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Right? I and others were also banned from talking about China and Uyghurs on world news on lemmy.ml

https://lemmy.world/post/5697017

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

The great misunderstanding of hard left leaning western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.

Just like their hard right leaning counterparts they’re stuck in a mindset from the first half of the past century.

[–] antonim 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

They don't really believe Russia is socialist to any degree, they just support it because it (supposedly) opposes the western hegemony, USA/NATO, etc.

Basically the same logic as that of pro-Russian right-wingers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I had a bunch of hexbear and ml's tell me russian war crimes in Berlin were "Nazi myths". Apparently the Nazis had more influence over the world of historical academia after they lost than Russia.

Also other allied war crimes did happen and weren't Nazi myths.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Supporters of autocratic state capitalist regimes like China and Russia also aren't left-leaning.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think I'm confused. I haven't seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It's right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I've never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I've seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 years ago

This is too funny. What a great post to wake up to lmfao.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

China*

Please stop saying "mainland China". It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Please stop saying “mainland China”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.

It means without Hong Kong.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Mainland China refers to China sans Hong Kong and Macao, yes. Because you have to distinguish and "Mainland China" is a whole lot less typing than "China but without Hong Kong and, oh yeah, Macao too".

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

The official name of Taiwan's government is Republic of China, and it's the continuation of the government that controlled all of China before Mao's uprising.

So I'm not sure your argument makes sense. They claim to be the legitimate Chinese government in their own name.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Outside of that very specific context, China == PRC. I understand the history of Taiwan very well, and it's important for people to understand that they are two different countries.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah, in colloquial usage, most people understand that China and Taiwan are two different countries and there's no confusion over which one is which.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry I only copied the title

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I also read it to mean not HK. Is that not right?

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Guess they're not tankies then.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is hilarious to me. I haven't really had much opportunity to interact with them before so just today I got into a discussion about how Americans weren't the most propagandized people in the world because N Korea exists. Apparently NK is a pretty cool place and I just refuse to believe it bc I'm a propagandized American (oh sorry, they say USian for some reason).

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[–] Draedron 50 points 2 years ago

lmfao the Xinny the pooh boot suckers are banned from their favourite dictatorship?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 years ago

Leopards ate tankies' faces!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not lemmygrad though, how odd

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Lemmygrad hasn't been spotted yet. When it is spotted, it will be blocked as well, like literally every social media site that reaches the authoritarians' awareness.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I tested two services that supposedly allow you to check if a site is blocked in China. I don't know with certainty how accurate these tools are in general, but I can say they gave me consistent results for lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, and lemmy.ca. Hexbear and lemmy.ml register as blocked, while other instances go through.

https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/

Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca, lemmy.world

https://www.vpnmentor.com/tools/test-the-great-china-firewall/

Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca. Lemmy.world could not be parsed using this tool, perhaps due to not being set to work with that TLD.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

Critical support for the comrades in China for having to put up with those instances for so long.

[–] antonim 29 points 2 years ago

That's fucking hilarious, if true.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Papa China is just gonna go buy some milk, lemmy.ml, you're in charge, don't let hexbear use the stove or any knives while I'm out!"

[disappears forever]

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

LMAO that's hilarious

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Heh. Ironic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Must be doing something right.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are there any lemmy instances within China? 🤔

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