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I have only been active on hexbear since last year, and checking in from time to time before that, so some of the taglines don't make any sense to me. Can someone please explain?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sorry if I tore open old wounds ooooooooooooooh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Lmao, you good sis

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What if a vegan outdoor cat stacking rocks was dating another cat somewhat younger than it while listening to Cumtown?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

69th Struggle Brigade reporting for duty

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Outdoor cats + rock stacking/cairns struggle sessions

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Thank you! But like, why were these topics struggle sessions? puzzled

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Cats kill birds, lizards and small mammals at a truly ridiculous rate and have caused the extinction of several such species. Rock stacking is a problem because sometimes stacked rocks are used as a marker either by natives or the national parks service and you making a bunch of fakes could end up causing confusion. Like setting up fake signs at a hiking trail. It also risks damaging the habitats of small animals.

Both of these arguments were contrasted with arguments about personal autonomy and how little damage is done by each individual who does this, compared to other forms of damage that can be done, and an argument followed.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

another aspect of the rock stacking is that the stones used to stack are often smooth riverbed stones, which when removed cause the flowing water to erode the riverbed at an increased rate, which has multiple knock-on effects that damage the environment in various and unpredictable ways (increased silt downstream, changes to oxygen levels, etc). it's incredibly harmful to the river's ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

To be fair, the argument was first about rock stacking on a large scale. Like every tourist, hiker, and camper doing it to post on social media. At the time of the argument, there were a bunch of reddit and tik tok posts about it. We were doing Discourse™ and creating Takes®.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The rock stacking thing was more about people doing it in rivers and causing a bunch of erosion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It was also that, yes. I remember the destruction of habitat thing and the native appropriation things being mentioned more vividly though. Either way it was am issue of environmental concerns v personal autonomy with a side of this being a minor issue.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When you're hiking on a public trail your personal autonomy is not a major priority.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Yea it was really "Here's why this is bad from a cultural, environmental, and societal perspective with examples of how they have caused negative impacts in specific instances"

Versus

"Yea but don't tell me what to do"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not going to argue which is more important, there is no need to reawaken the struggle session while explaining it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

no need to reawaken the struggle session

Honestly this site is no fun without the occasional struggle session. Things have been feeling a little too simpatico around here lately, we banned all the controversial users and now there's no fun drama anymore sadness

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's probably because of federation. Interacting with people on the outside makes us appreciate each other more and gives an outlet for people looking for a fight.

Also you're 100% correct about the rock stacking thing, it was a completely innocent, informative post politely asking people not to go out of their way to do a random environmentally harmful thing, and a bunch of people went crazy over it for no reason.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Also you're 100% correct about the rock stacking thing, it was a completely innocent, informative post politely asking people not to go out of their way to do a random environmentally harmful thing, and a bunch of people went crazy over it for no reason.

That struggle session was so stupid because it was obviously started by nerds who never go outside let alone do any hiking, meaning they wouldn't even be in a position to be stacking rocks. People who actually hike would be hit with leave no trace signs while on the trail. The question was settled decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

we banned all the controversial users

My personal block list begs to differ ban-hammer im-doing-my-part

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Oh you should totally start a NEW struggle session in another thread. I'm totally up for that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I agree, as good leftists we do need to be critical of ourselves and other leftists to further our progress, we call them 'struggle sessions', I know that's riffing on the Chinese Cultural Revolution but to me that gives them a negative connotation. What can we learn by only discussing the things we agree with? It's good practice for learning how to give and receive criticism without taking it too personally or getting overly emotional as well. Obviously this doesn't apply to reactionary views or fascist apologia.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I DISAGREE WITH YOU AND THINK YOU SUCK!!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No you didn't and saying you did is revisionism.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Dear god I can't handle the struggle oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes you can. Not believing yourself is a form of liberalism

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Believing in yourself is bourgeois decadence

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Thank you for the explanation! Sounds like I missed a major discussion.

If nothing else, I now at least understand the tagline.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I mean, I think this description is pretty strawmanny and not a fair representation of the struggle session, but I'll say no more because this thread is already bait enough.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Just wanna chime in and say I'm already sorry I asked about the tagline. This wasn't meant to be bait posting, I just honestly didn't know what it was about.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You did nothing wrong and no one is mad at you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

It's really funny actually

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Absolutely not a problem and no need to apologise, though I appreciate it.

Even as someone who posted and got over-invested in both struggle sessions, I think it's 100% funny you asked. Care-Comrade

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

I'm happy to hear that and thank you Care-Comrade

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I could obviously have framed things differently, but no part of what I said was wrong or misrepresenting either side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well, maybe one of us is misremembering/misinterpreted, but I posted in both struggle sessions and I completely disagree with your representation of the sides.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Oh okay doggirl-sweat

Glad I missed these two

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

this is a can of outdoor cats you don't want to open, comrade

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're being mean again lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

:thousand-yard-stare: