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someone save me from ai i dont wanna live in this cyberpunk dystopia anymore

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago (1 children)

broke and 2016pilled: saying you've "read" a book after reading the "plot synopsis" on wickypeedia

stoke and 2025mode: saying you've "read" a book after making an algorithm turn it into a cute little digestable infant formula smoothie

artichoke and 2034感: saying you've "read" a book after semi-watching a 20 second video in the upper left of your glasses, where someone recounts the plot at 3x speed, also you're having nutrient paste dinner and "engaging" with your "office-mate friend-circle" off the clock in meatspace at the same time

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

expert-shapiro someone recounts the plot at 3x speed

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I asked ChatGPT to summarize Marx's Capital in one paragraph or less, it stated

"Capitalism is when money. Communism is when no money. Money turns into linen, and linen turns into a commodity. Labor power."

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Labor power.

I choose to read this in the same voice as "Turtle Power!" from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme song.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Workers of the world unite
Workers of the world unite
Workers of the world unite
loosin' all their chains now!
Labor Power!

They're the world's most value producing thing! (We're really hip!)
They're workers in the factory and they're mean! (Hey - get a grip!)
When their boss cracks the whip
These laborers try to give'm the slip!

Workers of the world unite
Workers of the world unite
Marx taught them the philosophy (He's a radical rat!)
Lenin reads, and then he does the thing! (That's a fact, jack!)
Stalin had a big spoon, (Gimmie a break!)
Mao Zedong was a party dude (Party!)

Workers of the world unite
Workers of the world unite
Workers of the world unite
loosin' all their chains now!
Labor Power!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Marx taught them the philosophy (He's a radical rat!) marx-goth

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

Linen go up stonks-up

Linen go down stonks-down

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cross posting this to cowbee's capital reading group he's gunna be so pwned

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

New tagline.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago (3 children)

i guess this is a product of over consumption, feeling you need to shorten stories so you can consume more of them faster

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god that fucking sucks dude

[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago (4 children)

There is this strange attitude towards books, where people overfocus on the number of books they read and what "counts as reading", as if finishing a book is in itself a form of self-improvement or prayer or something. My theory is that it comes from the education system somehow.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago

I reckon that you're right about the education system being at fault, but if you're going to be "reading" a summary made by the pollution-bot, then you might as well just watch a youtube-video on the subject instead. At the very least you can use the comment section on youtube to ask questions about the subject matter (and get told that whatever issue you're having is a bolshevik plot made by the Talmudic Demons)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

I was going to say it's like "gamifying" books, but the attitude is even older than that. It reminds me of people who will pick what games to play based purely on reviews, like their optimizing their Aggregated IGN Score Experiential Index.

I had to try to stop myself from doing that, because I would end up forcing myself to finish every single book I picked up, setting page count goals for the day, and not re-reading books because it cut into my goodreads goal for the year. When really... you should just read what you feel like, and for it's own sake, and not really worry too much about intentionality.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Willfully being this ignorant should be bullied as fuck.

Like holy shit why aren't these people embarrassed that they're too fucking ignorant to read a book

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

chatGPT summarize all the Holy texts and I'll pick the best religion based on that thanks

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

It will never cease to amaze me how techbros have made FUCKING AI seem lame.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tbf, nobody seems to understand what classical philosophy is about anyway, better not lose too much time on Aristotle

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's fair, but I feel like the intended experience is everyone being flummoxed by this or that specific passage, to the point that it has gained iconic status. Being flummoxed by your own personally generated weird passage just hasn't got the community, ya know?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Absolutely true

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I think this is right to some extent. For the vast majority of people, you're not reading Aristotle for the content (at least not in the sense that's well-captured by a summary). That is, we don't generally read Aristotle because he was right about a bunch of things. The value is in following the chain of reasoning and seeing how it gave rise to many, many of the questions we're still grappling with today. Reading a summary is basically useless, because if you've grown up anywhere in international-community-1 international-community-2, you've already absorbed Aristotle at that level. It's part of the structure of Angloid thought at a deep level.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The other day, a lady told me that she asked the "all knowing entity" (her words, not mine) where the winning Mega-millions ticket was purchased. She enthusiastically informed me that the winner was someone in Minnesota.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

yells-at-cloud Back in my day we had Cliff's Notes

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Man I have got to stop using computer. If I was rich enough to hire someone to transcribe all my writings into text documents I’d still use the computer because I like video games and am hopelessly addicted to doomscrolling, but it’s nice to imagine a world where I no longer had to use it. I really think we’re going to reach a point where personal computering is more bad than good, if we haven’t already passed that point.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

We passed it long ago

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I went to criticize but if I had this tool during high school I would not have read a single word of Ethan Frome. That book sucks.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My school version of this was sparknotes i don't think I read half the books I was given. Still aced all the English exams tho cos I'm built different

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I'm exactly the age where teachers caught on to spark notes and all my highschool teachers at least had one spark notes book to show the class that they're checking your wording or whatever for plagiarism. I wonder how many were just the same ones passed between teachers the first week

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I would rather they read summaries than not read anything. Atleast it still takes brain power to read. Scrolling mindlessly through YouTube Shorts does not.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Who even uses YouTube shorts?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

AmeriKKKans, as soon as TikTok is banned

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

ChatGPT, please summarize Pierre Bayard's How To Talk About Books You Haven't Read

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Stuff like this legitimately makes me question whether using more basic technological assistants such as calculators has fucked up our brains for the worse, and we just don't understand what we've lost.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I also feel like maybe I was too quick in my dismissal of these ideas as an every generation thing. It does feel different with all this generative AI crap, but I'm pretty sure that's what they all thought back in the day for writing/books/calculators/computers/phones...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

i can see a use for this but ive heard some of those "podcast" summary things people make and damn are they ridiculously reductive in a way that actually misrepresents what they are summarizing

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Using writing had fucked up our memory ages ago, Socrates was right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's hard since plato writes about it in the Phaedrus about writing specifically (it's a tool for forgetting!)

So it's been around for a while, but the scale and stakes are probably new

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

The pain of reading

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

Reading Infinite Jest and Gravity's Rainbow based on a one line ChatGPT summary.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So they had chat GPT generate Cliff's notes for them

So it's the same thing as high school students reading Shakespeare in the '90s only now it's a stupid chatbot

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Cliff notes were a step up because at least they weren’t hallucinated garbage at least

Can’t imagine much of these summaries are accurate

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