While giving a pass to the literal crime syndicate about to take over the government.
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This country lost moral priorities long long ago
Yeah when it took perfectly good tea and threw it into the river
Honestly, I know you're probably just joking, but there are several times in recent memory where I've wished that you guys won that one.
That's my secret, Captain, I'm always joking.
And hungry.
But mostly joking.
It might honestly have stopped Manifest Destiny.
That, or the increased manpower reserve of America would have let Britain conquer literally the entire world instead of just the parts with spices, and the pressure from Southern states would have kept Britain from outlawing slavery in the Empire.
That's actually pretty straight forward. The other guy is seen as "morally good" so everything he does is also seen as good, even if if flagrantly breaks laws and human rights. Biden is seen as "morally bad" so even the slightest mistake is immediately seen and treated as blasphemy. It's how right wingers see the world as morally good and bad, with laws and justice there just to punish the morally bad. Facts or consistency don't matter.
I don’t know on what earth even trumps supporters think he’s morally good. Everyone knows he’s an asshole, and for some that’s a feature not a bug.
And biden is morally bad. He could of ended this genocide at any point and probably won the election in the process (or Harris) but nooooo gotta have endless war and liberal tears because they can’t figure out why they lost and are throwing a toddler temper tantrum at anyone who refused to vote for Harris.
He speaks about their issues and is on their favorite side. Unfortunately that's all it takes for many.
I mean, that's kinda how democracy is supposed to work right?
That part, yes. The "won’t have to vote anymore" part certainly was not. Let's hope that's just one more thing he lied about.
Because for whatever reasons, our entire government backs isreal. We don't even get oil from them. I don't know what the deal is.
Nukes adjacent to Iran. It's an EU collabo that will never end.
Seriously, it's just good ol geopolitics
It's almost like the angriest loudest people on the internet haven't followed and studied decades of geopolitical history
Have you considered that some people don't accept that genocide is a necessary fact of "geopolitics?"
There's a word for people that do.
There's a word for people who refuse to accept reality as well.
Unfortunately for you they're called "voters". So do you want democracy or authoritarianism?
What did the voters vote for?
Not genocide that's for fucking sure.
It appears they did.
Unfortunately for me? In what world am I happy a genocidal strongman just won the election for U.S. president?
Acknowledging reality is important if you want to deal with it. However half the fediverse thinks they hold the majority opinion, despite evidence to the contrary.
Unfortunately snark and smug superiority don't win elections.
The majority of Americans are Protestant. There is a pillar of protestant Christianity that when Jesus returns in the second coming he will build a Temple in Israel and that will be the start of 1000 years of peace under Jesus Christ.
That is why these people will bend over backwards for them. They think they are protecting the world by protecting Israel and ensuring Jesus has a place to build his temple. Literal cult nonsense.
As if the almighty son of God couldn't just set up a temple whenever and wherever he wants, gotta make sure the locals are on board. By any means necessary (White American Jesus loves that shit)
So instead, let's make sure the area is controlled by the people whose attitude towards Jesus is "eh, guy was alright, I guess. #NotMyMessiah" Not to say there should be another crusade for Christianity to retake the area and... shit, someone's probably planning that too, aren't they?
It being a crusade is precisely what the other comment alludes to, they're trying to "retake the holy land."
That it's Israelis on the ground doesn't matter that much, it's a Crusade-by-proxy at least.
A slim majority of American voters support blocking weapon shipments and a large majority of Democrat voters do.
The problem with Biden shipping weapons is that it casts doubt on our "democracy".
That’s not how you criticize Biden! THIS is how you criticize Biden!
Let’s all criticize Biden.
After all we can’t afford to let someone misuse the office of the president.
Can I criticize binder
I have binders full of criticisms. They're more like concepts of criticisms, really. But still, binders of them.
Why not both?
Just wait til the insanity reaches a fever pitch and stays there for four years.
You ain't seen nothin' yet.
Welcome to why singling out Biden and Harris for supporting Israel was so stupid. The entire US establishment supports Israel with few exceptions.
Remember when Biden addressed the nation after Oct 7 and said he saw pictures of 40 beheaded babies? What a shocking, unnecessary lie.
Biden did this to himself.
It’s weird how much people miss the point on this topic. You’re doing exactly what I just commented about. If someone else had been President, 98% chance they would have done the exact same things.
Yes you've made your point very clear, you accept genocide because it suits your domestic political desires.
Apparently not that clear since you don’t seem to get it and are saying offensive nonsense. Conversations like this always make me wonder if people are just being disingenuous. The only other alternatives are you think Palestine is the only important thing in the world, or have reading comprehension difficulties. Or maybe don’t get US politics at all.
The way the US works right now, the people don’t have the power to choose politicians who would not support Israel. It’s just a fact. We can change our lack of true democracy, but it’s going to take a while. In the meantime, bashing Biden and helping Trump get elected gave absolutely no help to Palestine. Trump’s own remarks make this clear. I don’t “accept genocide” but I have no choice, and as I’ve been trying to point out to people for the entire year, Trump is very obviously much worse on a dozen serious issues, including Ukraine, LGBT rights, immigration, financial and environmental and labor regulations, and corruption. So why get him elected over Palestine when he’s not going to help Palestine but will fuck over tons of other marginalized groups? That makes no sense.
The reason why is because small crimes need to be punished in order to keep the plebs and peasants in line. Large crimes cannot be committed by little people. The most that you and I can do in terms of crime is maybe murderer someone, but someone in a massive position of power like Elon Musk and the (thankfully late) Brian Thompson can kill thousands of people with a stroke of a pen. But because there is some disconnect between their deaths and that pen stroke society doesn't call that murder. So they can go free while you and I would be executed or have to spend life in a small dank cell with nothing grey walls and pain.
It's also why many war criminals in Nuremberg had fairly light punishments and were often allowed to continue in positions of military and political significance after. The reason why people like Goering and Gobbells and Himmler would have been executed is less to do with their war crimes and more to do with the threat they posed politicially. They would never have followed what the Allied installed government would have wanted or changed their policies but would be undermining everything at every turn if allowed back into office. So they are done away with while the lower level chumps just got 4 or 10 years for killing who knows how many and then living their lives as normal.
Think back to when bill was caught getting blowies in the oval office. Given the power dynamics it was some fucked up shit. Then remember the circus around Monica.
Dems like the to pretend that was one isolated indiscretion and all is forgiven and forgotten. They pretend their reputation is untarnished and they can rise above all criticism using thier infallible moral comprehension.
The truth is their reputation never recovered. For the last 20+ years we've been suppressing an intolerable amount of disdain for the party that they truthfully can never recover from.
The DNC is a sunk cost. It's why the GOP has been able to thwart democracy itself because the keepers of high morals were proven to be jus lowley scum bags like the rest of us. If they are just as slobbernly as don down the street why not let don run everything. At least don doesn't try to hide it.
Our values cannot be protected by the dems. That is why I say let them fight. Let them spend all this capital they've amassed and we can all move on after everyone realizes they can't defeat the GOP and the titans have been freed. The old gaurd is dead. It's time for Hercules.
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