Krono

No, we should strive for a candidate who is against all genocide. Let's not compromise in advance.

There's far too many to name, but the first things that come to mind are Collateral Murder, Haditha Massacre, and literally anytime the US military has been involved in the Gazan genocide of the past year.

No, plane rides and sleepy time are not immoral in my opinion :)

There's probably a good argument about plane emissions and climate change tho

It seems we are in agreement then, the troops are self-interested rational actors; all of the supposed virtues are propaganda.

But I think there is a moral imperative that says "do not obey immoral orders", and that imperative does not come with a clause that says "unless there is a pending court case".

Or to put it another way, do you expect our enlisted men and women to uphold the high moral virtues of honor, self sacrifice, and protection of innocents?

After seeing what horrors American soldiers are capable of, I'm not holding my breath.

This is it. The real economic usecase for AI.

Anyone from Tulsi Gabbard to United Healthcare to the Israeli Occupying Force can add in a layer of AI to their operation and poof there goes the responsibility and accountability.

That may be true, but it doesn't excuse the list at all.

My country is responsible for the majority of international violence since WWII. I find that morally unacceptable.

I make posts like this because I want my country to do better. But the sad reality is we have yet to learn our lesson. We have been aiding and abetting an ongoing Holocaust for almost two years now.

My best guess is that the Chinese government will admit fault long into the future, when most of the accountability and backlash has already faded into history.

Which is no different than how the US has handled many of the atrocities I mentioned.

When will the US acknowledge and release info on the 100s of Yemeni and Pakistani civilian targets that were destroyed by drone strike? When will the US release the warcrimes reports from the War on Terror? Does the US even still have these warcrimes reports, or were they destroyed (as whistleblowers and Amnesty International have suggested they were)?

If you can't answer questions like these without resorting to cries of "Whataboutism", then fuck off hypocrite.

Your comment ignores the context that the US is doing anti-Chinese propaganda here, and there is no parity.

Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, and China was releasing PR statements on every anniversary of every US atrocity. They would still be issuing multiple statements every day.

The "pressure on the cultural zeitgeist" you speak of is just "shoot, then cry". The victims are forgotten.

Yep that's exactly my point, the US is doing Whataboutism when it issues these PR stunts to condemn Chinese atrocities.

I agree that declassification is a great thing, but it is not so black and white. Not all info becomes declassified eventually, so much is covered up and destroyed.

For example, much is known about the My Lai massacre in the Vietnam War. Most of this information is known due to declassified documents. But these declassified documents also mention that there were over 100 My Lai-level massacres that occured, most of which we know nothing about. Army Chief of Staff Westmoreland was quoted saying we do a "My Lai each month".

One of the largest, codenamed Speedy Express, reportedly killed 11,000 people, and was covered up at the highest levels.