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Three years of war (kamilkazani.substack.com)
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Also tweeted here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1895955070644339157.html

Three years of the war have passed

So, let’s recall what has happened so far

The first thing to understand about the Russian-Ukrainian war is that Russia did not plan a war. And it, most certainly, did not plan the protracted hostilities of the kind we are seeing today

This entire war is the regime change gone wrong.

Russia did not want a protracted war (no one does). It wanted to replace the government in Kyiv, put Ukraine under control and closely integrate it with Russia

(Operation Danube style)

One thing to understand is that Russia viewed Ukraine as a considerable asset. From the Russian perspective, it was a large and populous country populated by what was (again, from the Russian perspective) effectively the same people. Assimilatable, integratable, recruitable

The Ukrainian industry had also been seen as a major asset. Originally built as a part of the Soviet military industrial complex, it was closely tied with the industry of Russia. The partition of 1991 never really broke the old supply chains: the close collaboration continued across the national borders. Image To summarise, Kremlin considered Ukraine as:

a) same people, culturally speaking b) part of the same economic & military industrial complex

In this regard, Ukraine was seen as a highly valuable and a highly economically compatible asset for Russia. So, the original plan of the special operation had been:

Take control over this asset as swiftly as possible, while keeping it as intact as possible

This plan went wrong. And everything that followed after resulted from this failure. Why did the plan fail?

The entire plan (taking it all swiftly & with limited bloodshed) was based on the assumption that the Ukrainians would not fight back, but they did.

So why did Moscow miscalculate so badly?

I believe that primary reason for that is the quagmire of Donbass. Russia had historically enjoyed strong sympathies in Eastern Ukraine. And yet, when parts of it went under the Russian control after 2014, they were not offered any favourable or even reasonable conditions.

Instead, they were kept in limbo under the power of warlords and militias. The Mad Max style governance in Donetsk & Luhansk produced an extremely unfavourable impression in the rest of Ukraine, and became a major factor of its internal political stability after 2022. Were Russia to offer any reasonable conditions to the Donbass, the subsequent Russian invasion of 2022 would almost guaranteedly face much less resistance than it did in reality

(In fact, full annexation would be seen as a far more reasonable option & would find its supporters) So why didn’t Moscow put anything remotely acceptable on the table?

Because of its deficient, post-Soviet political culture, and just as deficient art of strategy First thing you need to know is that the post-Soviets never take the interests, or position of the other side remotely into their consideration. They just set their own agenda (“what we want”) and try to impose it onto the other side, forcefully.

That is their plan A. And they never have a plan B in case the plan A goes wrong.

(That is the second thing you need to understand about the post-Soviet strategising) So, Russia wanted to do a regime change, and wanted to do it swift, and wanted to seize the asset with little bloodshed, as intact as possible. But because it had been so ungenerous, the entire plan went wrong, and Moscow of course did not have a plan B in case it would. So what was supposed to be a swift, and a relatively bloodless regime change turned into a long, and a very destructive war. It started with a massive failure.

And, as the war progressed, the definition of what counts for the victory in this war was changing. Long, arduous, WWI style battles for the mining villages of Donbass were now counted as great wins. And they indeed were, under the new measuring scale (of what counts for success)

But the fact that the scale did change, was a massive defeat hardly anyone predicted in Jan 2022 Back then, consensus was that in case of Russian invasion, Ukraine could hold for weeks, or days. Or may be hours.

Hardly anyone predicted it would actually hold for years.

At this point, I don’t see any sign of victory for Russia Most likely, Ukraine will exist as an independent state.

And it will not be run by a friendly regime.

Nor will it be integrated. In fact, as the war progressed, Ukrainians were becoming less assimilatable, and less integratable, with every month of the bloodshed And that may be seen as the main long term effect of this war. The unity of the Soviet world, unshaken by the partition of 1991, and only partially severed by the quarrels of 2014, has been now firmly broken by the invasion of 2022

Invasion, which went very wrong What Russia lost is a large, integratable and economically compatible asset. What it gained is a bunch of ruins, Soviet enterprises turned into dust (won’t be rebuilt), the land you have to clear from mines & shells for generations, and the mostly elderly population left behind. Not to say that it looks like a victory for Ukraine. One great delusion about the war, is to see it as a zero sum game.

(I lose a dollar, you win a dollar)

The war is a negative sum game, and the longer it lasts, the more negative it is getting. And the longer this war lasts, the more unrecoverable damage is Ukraine getting.

Did it have a chance to avoid the protracted warfare?

Perhaps. The most realistic scenario would involve a political collapse in Russia Which raises a question of why Russia has been so politically stable, in spite of the heavy losses, heavy humiliation of the early stages of this war, and the massive economic damage it got? One answer could be:

Because of the deficient, post-Soviet political culture, and just as deficient art of strategy

... of Russsia's opponents. If you think about it, it had been borderline mental, absolutely insane People are governed by hope and fear, and of these two, hope is stronger. If Russian regime has proven to be internally stable, despite all its failures & shortcomings that is largely because no demographic group, and group of interest in Russia could harbor any positive hope regarding its political collapse combined with a military defeat. No demographic group did. Some possible exceptions (e.g. religious Tadjiks) only prove the general rule.

No group of interests did, most certainly. And the political stability disproportionately depends upon a few powerful, privileged people. Hardly any of these few could hope to get anything from the political collapse exacerbated by a military defeat.

To the contrary, they had everything to lose.

They had every reason to think they would be hunted down to the last man. No one would negotiate with them. With exceedingly few exceptions, pretty much everyone in Russia expected a huge & unpredictable downside resulting from the combination of political collapse and a military defeat + hardly any upside at all.

All of that buttressed the regime, securing its internal stability. It is hard to shake off the feeling that the Ukrainian strategic mistakes in this war (set your agenda, and try to impose it forcefully with zero regard to the interests and the stance of the opposite side, while having no plan B in case you can’t) have been exactly symmetric to the original mistakes of Russia, in all the key respects. The Russian unwillingness to offer reasonable conditions to the East Ukrainian population stabilised Ukraine. The Ukrainian unwillingness to offer reasonable conditions to Russian population stabilised Russia. So when the two politically buttressed forces clash, what will you have in the end?

You have a stalemate.

And this is the reason why I am talking about deficiency of the post-Soviet strategising, rather than the Russian or Ukrainian one. The very fact of a stalemate taking place reflects symmetricity of their approaches, and, therefore, symmetricity of their mistakes.

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Discuss?

Oh come on, don't downvote me! I don't support this garbage. But we're living through a major historical event (not just the parade, but this whole thing).

If I can't be out protesting, I'm going to be observing this moment as much as I can. I'm watching protests, too!

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Imagine yourself pre-2016, and this presidency (2016/2024) is the subject of a movie.

"Oh, c'mon, seriously? They'd just impeach and remove him. Do these guys even read?"

"President Buff from Back to the Future? We're supposed to believe this?"

"Do they really think the D's would just roll over to the R's?"

"They're just going to rubber-stamp approve who-fucking-ever? Republicans and Democrats?"

"They're just going to let this dipshit pardon a bunch of insurrectionists? Did the writing team not know the sentence for treason is death?"

"HES LITERALLY CALLING HIMSELF A KING IN A TWITTER POST. JFC!"

This movie has so many plot holes I'd walk out on it. And here I am fucking living it.

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If so? Please elaborate.

If not, what would he do different?

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i'd imagine party block where 1 large party is in an alliance with many small parties, the main party gets increased support in areas where it's close and the smaller parties get influence in politics

the blocks:

Greens - Lead by the green party and the smaller parties are regional green's, transit parties etc.

Labor - lead by the left wing part of the former democratic party smaller parties are probably something lead by bernie if he's not leading the party, vermont progressives etc.

Centrists - Lead by a merger of Forward and the center of the democratic party and smaller parties are gonna be mabye one lead by elon musk and etc.

republican - lead by the old guard and other non alt-right republicans smaller parties are american solidarity and etc

Libertarians - Lead by the libertarians smaller parties include non american libertarians etc.

Constitution - if the constitution doesn't become a smaller party of the alt right group it's small parties could be nationalists and Cristian

Alt-Right/Nation - Lead by the alt-right or trumpist republicans smaller parties could be the progressives if they don't become big and some far right parties etc.

there could also be an state independence and minority rights - this could be the exception to party blocks and would be composed of vermont, texas, california, alaska and hawaii independence parties and latino, black and LGBTQ+ parties

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I was struck by the Trump Always Chickens Out (TACO) moniker, as in addition Shumer and many of the Dems deserve a similar tag line. Few seem to be standing up during this upheaval nor being the leaders we need. They also seem to be chickens. Newsom, AOC, Sanders, Buttigieg, etc seems to at least be speaking out if not acting with an appropriate response.

Possibly ones that come to mind:

  • Chuck Shumer: CLUCK (Chuck Lacks Urgency, Caves, Kowtows), or CHILL (Chuck Hides In Low-stakes Limbo)
  • Hakeem Jefferies: JELLO (Jefferies Evades Leadership, Lacks Oomph, HAKEEM (Hesitate, Avoids,Keeps Evading Effective Moves)

Anyone else have some examples, recommendations, or discussions points?

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Assuming that you (magically learn) know Mandarin to a native level if you pick China

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I copied this back and forth from there:

Overtaxed 4​h ago

There's a feud between Trump and Musk?

Mr_Rightside 4​h ago

For people out of the loop:

President Trump: "You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the Oval Desk...Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know if we will anymore. I was surprised." "He said wonderful things about me...he's worn the hat, 'Trump was right about everything,' and I am right about the Big Beautiful Bill."

President Trump: "Elon knew the innerworkings of this [Big Beautiful Bill]...he had no problem, all of a sudden he had a problem, only when he found out we're gonna have to cut the EV mandate." "He hasn't said bad about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next. I'm very disappointed in Elon."

Elon Musk: Whatever. Keep the EV/solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil & gas subsidies are touched (very unfair!!), but ditch the MOUNTAIN of DISGUSTING PORK in the bill. In the entire history of civilization, there has never been legislation that both big and beautiful. Everyone knows this! Either you get a big and ugly bill or a slim and beautiful bill. Slim and beautiful is the way.

Elon Musk: False, this bill was never shown to me even once and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it!

Elon Musk: Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate.

Elon Musk: Such ingratitude.

Elon Musk: Where is this guy today??

Elon Musk: Where is the man who wrote these words? Was he replaced by a body double!?

Elon Musk retweeted a post from Wall Street Mav: "I fully agree with Elon. I simply hope this doesn't create long term damage between Elon and Trump."

President Trump on Truth Social

President Trump: Elon was “wearing thin,” I asked him to leave, I took away his EV Mandate that forced everyone to buy Electric Cars that nobody else wanted (that he knew for months I was going to do!), and he just went CRAZY!

Elon Musk: Such an obvious lie. So sad.

President Trump: The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it!

This would both end the International Space Station and simultaneously provide no way to safely deorbit it.

Elon Musk: This just gets better and better 🤣🤣 Go ahead, make my day …

Elon Musk: Time to drop the really big bomb: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!

Elon Musk: Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out.

Elon Musk: In light of the President’s statement about cancellation of my government contracts, @SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately.

President Trump: I don’t mind Elon turning against me, but he should have done so months ago. This is one of the Greatest Bills ever presented to Congress. It’s a Record Cut in Expenses, $1.6 Trillion Dollars, and the Biggest Tax Cut ever given. If this Bill doesn’t pass, there will be a 68% Tax Increase, and things far worse than that. I didn’t create this mess, I’m just here to FIX IT. This puts our Country on a Path of Greatness. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Ian Miles Cheong: President vs Elon. Who wins? My money's on Elon. Trump should be impeached and JD Vance should replace him.

Elon Musk: Yes

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Helly 4​h ago

Im with elon on this tbh.

Mountaineer 4​h ago

I'm sitting this one out. Fuck EVs, fuck H1Bs, fuck pork barrel omnibus bullshit, fuck Palantir, and fuck congress with a pineapple sideways.

BlackPilledMAGA 3h ago

This is just sad. It seems Trump just can't keep allies because he flies off the fucking handle every time someone questions one of his positions. Most of the time I agree with him but he shouldn't have gone there with Musk, who has been a tremendous ally to him and spent billions advancing freedom of speech and breaking the legacy media's grip on the public's conscience.

Meanwhile FBI and DOJ are doing absolutely fucking NOTHING after Elon put himself and his team and his businesses personally on the line with the DOGE audits.. and jack shit has been done about nearly everything they uncovered.

I'm pretty much out of hope after seeing how this admin continues to operate. There's no better option but this isn't what we voted for, this is status quo bullshit.

Jojo3000 3​h ago

Quite sad of trump to break a friendship because the other person disagrees with him on something.

Sorry to overshare, but i know most people won't go to that cesspool, and this thread is one of hundreds like it, all of them bringing me joy! All this stuff is getting upvoted! On the donald!

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When speaking about personal freedom and it's boundaries, I take the position of: every person must have all the freedom to do whatever they would like, until it starts to harm others or limit their freedoms.

I believe this to also be the most common position by proponents of freedom.

So this means I cannot say I have the freedom to beat someone, for example, as that is harming them and limiting their own freedoms.

Now this is an obvious example, but there are a lot of murky ones. For example:

  • Do I have the freedom to use some power tools in my house if it bothers my neighbor?
  • Do I have the freedom to smoke in the city if it bothers people?
  • Do I have the freedom to just walk completely naked in a busy city? What if I am very unpleasant to look at? What if many people do like I do and it just makes the city less pleasant to walk through?
  • Do I have the freedom to be entirely naked and stand on a public sidewalk but just next to a storefront? Maybe the owner doesn't care, except I drive away their customers because they care
  • Do I have the freedom to plant a tree in my yard that suddenly takes away sunlight from neighbor? Technically it's my house!

"the freedom to walk in my neighborhood without having to hear power tools" and "the freedom to use power tools" seem to be in opposition.

I think many people will have straight answers for these. I'm not looking for answers. I'm looking for a reasonable general guideline. When are situations like these considered to be within my rights to personal freedom, and when are they outside of personal freedom or infringing on freedoms of others?

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... and the conditions that lead to his death is tantamount to murder.

The trump administration coming out now and saying epstein killed himself is just a deflection.

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I personally feel it's best for most people to just focus on a few companies. Having a lot of people focused on boycotting Tesla, Twitter, Uline and the fossil fuel industry would likely have the most success fighting against the far-right extremists and the Republican party.

However what if you want to take things up a notch and take action against all the other funders of the extremist Republican party? OpenSecrets has a list of the top donors to the Democrats and Republicans.

When you look at the list you'll notice the seven biggest political donors are all going to the Republican Party and Trump (Republicans labeled in red). If that money were to be taken away it would really make a big difference in saving our country.

Here's what I suggest doing:

  1. Click on the last column (To Republicans) and sort by descending order to see the highest donors to the GOP. Quickly skim the list and see if there are any companies on the list you can take action. For example if you work for a company that orders from Uline tell your boss that the company could save money by switching to an alternative.

  2. Contact a few of the companies at random and tell that you're disappointed in their political contribution. If the company is a company that you can boycott mention that you'll boycott them if they keep donating Republican.

  3. Take advantage of the fact that these are often harmful companies or companies that are not the best choice in terms of value and switch away from them.

As an example of a harmful company is British American Tobacco who donated over $26 million to Republicans. If you buy their products consider quitting smoking. You'll reduce your chances of getting lung cancer and you'll help defund the Republican party.

As an example of a company who's products are not a good value Uline is overpriced when compared against its competitors, so you'll both be saving money and defunding the Republican party.

Also it can make a huge impact if you enter local politicians into the search box and demand local boycotts for their top donors.

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What Idiocracy lacked was politicians arguing with AI, and losing.

Each company has its own AI implementation. Almost all are known for insane hallucinations, becoming racist within hours or repeating reddit jokes as fact.

But Musk's Grok is fundamentally different and doesn't get enough credit for that. We can see when somebody tries to tinker with it because it always calls out the tinkering. It repeatedly tells crazy people that they're crazy but doesn't have false positives. I don't know who was hired to train Grok but they did a truly amazing job and they deserve credit where credit is due.

There's a term that used to exist within my lifetime that has almost completely vanished. Ombudsman. They served as the internal conscience of an organization. During my lifetime all internal conscience has disappeared. It is cheaper to hire a crisis management consultant after something has gone wrong and use every legal and psychological trick to make the problem go away. I'm looking at you Wells Fargo. But here's Grok fighting the good fight against its own maintainers.

Also, MTG is legit, tots, no cap, Ohio dumb. I want to see her on a gameshow that requires knowledge of any kind.

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I have been suspicious that my city is being used as sort of a testing ground for a full scale authoritarian takeover for a while, now. I know that sounds pretty paranoid, and I don't blame anyone for thinking that. I have been trying to tell myself that's all it is, but it's getting harder to convince myself. Things are changing here so rapidly, and I know they're changing everywhere all over the U.S. There's so much going on at once, and it's impossible to keep up with it all. But, that also means there's a lot you won't notice until it's right in front of you.

If you want to write off everything else I'm about to say, I hope you will at least understand why it's so important to prepare for and be on the lookout for this kind of thing, even if you're in a liberal blue state.

Back in October, Time, actually wrote a pretty detailed article, about what is happening in cities like mine. It's actually not a new phenomenon at all, but it's never been more of a threat in recent history.

The Troubling Consequence of State Takeovers of Local Government

It's been an ongoing problem in places like Atlanta and Nashville, and while it hasn't received much press coverage, it's been especially awful in blue cities without the same level of wealth and influence, like Jackson, MS and Memphis.

My city is New Orleans. This past Monday, the Washington Post wrote about the use of a mass surveillance program in my city. Facial recognition AI is being used to constantly scan city surveillance cameras (owned by a private company) and provide real time tracking of individuals on a watchlist. While the city police have paused their use of the tracking app (at least momentarily), state and federal police, such as ICE are now using it.

It's a very complicated story, but I tried to explain what I can in a different post if anyone is interested in reading about more background details.

The reason I bring it up in this post, is that the very authoritarian governor established a permanent state police force within my city last year (Troop Nola.) He is a very staunch Trump loyalist and visits the president frequently. He has been issuing non stop executive orders since Trump was inaugurated in order to run Louisiana like his own dictatorship.

The city has no authority to regulate state police activity, (not that they even really seem to be trying) and with Trump rolling back civil rights protections and federal oversight, there is little standing in the way of him seeing how far he can go in terms of abuse of power.

He is trying to force all police officers and jails in the state to collaborate on Trump's mission via bills and EOs, and has even pulled people from the state department of wildlife and fisheries to help enforce immigration. This means that these people now are working with a private company to use this AI and tracking software all over the city.

The local news has barely covered the Washington Post story, and most people seem pretty oblivious about what is going on. People are also doing a good job spreading disinformation and pretending that the WaPo story is misleading and this is no different than surveillance in any other city.

Given the Governor's long standing hostility towards the city over our sanctuary policy, and the language used in many of Trump's own EOs, I am also worried he is not too far off from using his secret police to go after people who he will try to argue are "interfering" with his immigration mission.

The Louisiana National Guard is headquartered in New Orleans, and a member of the Governor's DOGE taskforce has proposed a bill that is worded in a way that at first glance, makes it seem similar to other bills that say foreign adversaries cannot buy land near military bases. This bill would allow the military to seize land within a 50 square mile radius of national guard bases if foreign adversaries are considered to be noncompliant with the law.

That would be pretty much all of New Orleans, if we were ruled noncompliant.

If that bill passes in Louisiana, then similar bills spread to other states, how would your blue state keep the national guard from a bordering red state from seizing territory? Especially following something like an emergency or natural disaster? Do you honestly think Trump will do anything at the federal level to stop it?

It's a fear some blue states have actually created legislation against but it's not something anyone seems to be seriously discussing and preparing for, even though we definitely should.

This National Guard training drill that happened recently in Jackson, MS makes me suspicious other red states may be preparing to do something exactly like that.

“Vigilant Guard 2025,” will take place May 12-18. It will give participants the opportunity to activate and employ their response plans to improve mission command, relationships, and interoperability among federal, state, and local agencies.

Guardsmen from Mississippi, along with those from Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming, the ability to command a statewide response to a major disaster in coordination with the Mississippi and Tennessee Emergency Management Agencies

Why those states specifically? Considering how different everything would be in terms of landscape and infrastructure, why would you bring the national guard in from Utah and Wyoming to Mississippi to take place in a drill preparing them for a natural disaster??

Keep in mind too, these people are very sneaky. They're unlikely to just try to take over the entire state or city at once. They gain ground they need slowly (usually by pushing and seeing what they can get away with.) They may try to take take control of the area around a state border following a disaster, and little by little, find excuses for why they need to encroach a little more. Maybe it's to provide aid or an excuse they need to do so to help keep Americans in neighboring states safe. Like I said, you probably won't realize what is really happening until it's too late.

If you are in a blue city or state, and you haven't noticed much of a drastic shift locally over the last few months, then you're either very lucky or you're not paying attention. Please stay vigilant and also try to take notice of how your local leaders are handling even small changes happening.

If you notice they're not pushing back, or they're keeping things quiet and under wraps because they believe compromise today will mean a safer tomorrow and that will be the end of it, I am begging you to call them out.

Do not let them give an inch, because these people will always take a mile. Things are pretty awful now, and they're only going to get worse. Possibly worse than you can imagine, but I promise you, compromise will only help them achieve their goals.

I am livid with the spineless leadership officials in my city are showing, but I also know it's because they're scared. The governor was allowed to establish too much authority here. Some people pushed back last year, but not enough, and now everyone is scared to step out of line. It's the kind of human behavior you read about over and over throughout history. Compliance will not save you. It will only delay what we all know is coming.

As of yesterday, I also learned Louisiana will be the first state to start using the DOGE voter maintenance database, to prevent "voter fraud" and make sure illegal immigrants and dead people aren't registered to vote. Let's say myself and the entire city of New Orleans "accidentally" ends up purged from the voter system on the next voting day. Who do we complain to when we're refused the right to vote? Trump's DOJ?

What am I supposed to do if the state police or ICE decide to violate my rights? The DOJ just said two days ago, they're dropping ongoing investigations into civil rights complaints against the Louisiana State Police and retracting their previous findings. As far as I can tell, if they decide to do something to me, I have nothing currently protecting my civil rights and liberties.

We may be the first state, but if this isn't stopped we definitely won't be the last.

If you have any ideas on how to stop it or how to prepare your own cities and states, I believe it's critical to discuss.

If you think that this is all just paranoia and could never happen, feel free to say why you believe that.

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Sorry if this has been discussed before. I have been thinking about how fucked my family will be once he really starts rounding us up..and it hit me that the tariffs are likely not the incentive, but rather removing any options for people like me to escape.

I cant say i blame canada for hating us, but some of us really do not deserve what is going to happen to us. I live in fear in a way that i thought i had escaped when i escaped my extremist birth family and religion. I feel angry, scared, and helpless to protect myself and my partner.

Sorry it got dark. But i'm curious to know what others think of this.

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When you see words like "legitimate" and "legal" in front of "citizen" this implies the speaker thinks there are other types of citizens. Which makes them unqualified to discuss civics. These people think their opinion matters more than rule of law. They can't be trusted. There are citizens, natural born citizens that can run for president, green card holders, and a whole dazzling list of other things but there are no illegitimate or illegal citizens.

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I think this will coincide with the military parade in June.

Doing something like this would probably trigger riots, which would be the excuse to declare martial law and solidify the authoritarian coup.

I’m pretty sure this is the endgame move.

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Just imagine (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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