Well, if the shoe fits.
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Wait, I thought the Jews ran Hollywood and controlled all of the media? How is it possible a movie like this exists?
Andor is just one such example of this.
This shit is why I joke that every work of fiction needs to end with the protagonist staring directly at the camera and explaining what the audience is supposed to take away from it, 1950's style, because people are too stupid for subtlety. Yes, yes, very clever to name the site of a genocide "G[horman Pl]aza," and have a character specifically emphasize the word "genocide" in a Senate chamber, but StrikeEagle784 sees all that and goes, "Wow, cool lasers" without understanding anything about anything.
Now, imagine if Andor ended with Cassian taking a seat and saying, "Hi, I'm Cassian Andor, and I hope you enjoyed the show. Were you moved by the plight of the Ghormans and inspired to fight the Empire? Well, just like how the Empire conducted a genocide against Ghorman, in real life, the US and Israel are committing genocide against the people of Gaza. That's actually the reason why that's in the show. Early on, I tried to turn a blind eye to injustice, but I found that ignoring the problem didn't make it go away. This is also true in real life. In summary, the genocide in Gaza is bad and you should do something about it."
Would that be stupid and annoying? Yes. But this is the level of art that we deserve. At least, it's the level of art that StrikeEagle784 deserves.
So there's a planet famous for producing silk where peaceful protesters are massacred in a public square and you only think of Gaza? There is definitely no place on Earth like that other than Gaza!
I'm pretty sure the Israel Gaza war kicked off with terrorists masscring people in villages and taking hostages, but it wasn't the IDF doing that shit. Did Andor portray that at all?
I tried to find clips to see what it's referencing some more but holy shit that show is 90% pretentious speeches. But even then it's pretty obvious.
You are correct there are some people that need things spelled out for them or they don't understand it. Some even resort to Qanon style numerology to try to prove weird connections between things.
Anyway, which silk producing country massacred peaceful protesters in a public square? Come on.. .you can figure it out! Somewhere where vehicles were used to crush protesters? Maybe someone made a memorial and an authoritarian regime took it down... Hint
Israel Gaza war kicked off
When great Britain partitioned off land and help kick out the population.
Weird how that's also what happened in Andor...
And of course the zionist is trying to deflect it to a different situation
Yes, yes, very clever to name the site of a genocide "G[horman Pl]aza," and have a character specifically emphasize the word "genocide" in a Senate chamber […]
🤯 Holy shit that’s brilliant!
Yes, Star Wars Rebels is so brilliant that they were referencing the Isreal-Hamas war in 2017.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Secret_Cargo
Y'all are sounding like qanons with your numerology now.
Oh I guess I'm going to see the new Superman now.
Plot twist: it's all a marketing scheme to get you to watch another shitty comic book movie.
DC needs its moment, though. There are so many good characters to explore.
That being said. Free palestine ♡
Are Zionists (not the general Jewish population of the world) the biggest mass murdering babies in human civilization now adays?
This complaint is such an admission. They can't point to a single similarly between Israel and the bad guys in the movie except, "nation with technology advanced weaponry being deployed against unarmed civilians," and they're not even disputing that that's an accurate depiction of what's happening. It's not like they're saying, "this movie parallels Hamas propaganda." They're saying, "depicting colonial genocide negatively is anti-Israel."
Hmm, sounds based, might actually watch it. I highly doubt the movie is anti-semitic but if it turns out to be I'll be disappointed of course.
They aren't asking that question. They know they are.
Well, if the shoe fits.
I like how they don't even bother saying it's a lie. They just say it's aimed at them.
Reddit has been actively alienating users who despise fascism, so these pro-fash topical whinges are only going to grow more echo-chambery
100% true. Banned because I said all Nazis need to be punched or put in the ground.....Nazis.....
Fuck Reddit.
you call them PRO-PALIS? does that mean youre ANTI-PALESTINE?? KIND OF A WEIRD THING TO SAY
"we're seeing similarities between us and fictional villains and we don't like it"
If you see yourself in the bad guys actions, maybe do something else...
Its crazy how they know it is about israel and they still support israel
What kind of Brainwashing is that
Maybe if you didn't colonize the land of brown people you would see no parallelism between the two. Hypocrites.
Yes it is totally Hollywood making Israel look bad, not the shooting caged brown people part.
Bloody anti-Semitic Hollywood. It's so typical and clearly there are no Jews working there...
The movie unironically blasted Israel beyond a shadow of a doubt. Pretty insane after Bassem Youssef supposedly got fired as superman for being anti Israel 2 years ago. James Gunn redemption arc.
Woke is tolerance, empathy, and a desire for the betterment of all at the expense of none (from the best of my observations studying conservative media). These are all the things the Israeli state leadership and a disturbing plurality of Israeli citizens and zionists around the world ideologically oppose because addressing those tenets challenges their ability to justify genocide. Imperial Ethno-states cannot be woke, by definition, even if they dress themselves in the imagery and rhetoric of tolerance (the must Humane Army shit). So yeah, of course they're gonna shit their pants over this 'woke' messaging in media, cause they desperately need to control the narrative of their crimes in Gaza. My sympathy to the horrifically oppressed there, and the Jewish people both in Israel and abroad who rightly and justly oppose the violence. May the Netanyahu criminal regime collapse as soon as possible.
It’s not our fault your state became so evil they are interchangeable with cartoon villains.
All this whining about that movie makes me want to see it more and more. If this is intentional, it will be remembered as the best marketing campaign in history.
This is the right take. Well put.
the movie is ok.
fun watch, nothing too ground breaking.
attacking a defenseless neighboring people
They’re so close to figuring it out
Its antisemitic to say its bad to bomb defenseless people....
Someone have context if we haven’t seen the new superman?
Also I want to scream a million times. Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.
At the start of the movie, Superman has just stopped an invasion. The fictional country Barovia, a US ally, has advanced weaponry and attempts to invade and annex a much smaller and poorer fictional country Jarhanpur which doesn't appear to have a military of any kind. Barovia is ethnically white (coded as Eastern European/Russian) and Jarhanpur is ethnically more middle eastern.
It is not a giant leap to correlate these countries to Isreal and Palestine, but really those superficial details are where the the similarities begin and end. There is no apparent religious connection to the invasion, nor terrorist activity. No ongoing tensions, direct involvement from the US goverment in the invasion, or any act of war or other event that triggers Barovia to invade. It is just a powerful country attacking a smaller country for their resources on the orders of a power hungry dictator. It's a trope that is not exclusively related to current events, that made as much sense 50 years ago as it does today. And the purpose of it in the film is to both critique Superman's naivete of geopolitics, and to reinforce his values that every life matters.
People that are mad about it and pretending that it is explicitly a depiction of the Isreali-Palestinian war are projecting meaning that isn't there, at least beyond maybe some subtext. It's always a bit telling when people see generic bad guys in a movie and think, "this is about me!" But, of course, if they felt that the depiction of the overwhelming military force against civilians made the Palestinians seem sympathetic to them... maybe they should think a bit more about why that is.
Israel isn’t Judaism and Judaism isn’t Israel! Mixing that up is problematic because you’re confounding anti-zionism (a settler colonial state project committing genocide) with anti-semitism.
Mixing that up is intentional, so that you can be accused of being antisemitic by not supporting Israel. Politicians love to do this.
Wow, it's actually amazing how far they can combine self-awareness and denial so effortlessly.