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Despite having been the one to shoot and kill Ah Loo and wound Arturo, the yet unidentified No Kings “peacekeeper” was detained and released without charges after being questioned by police.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

detained and released without charges after being questioned by police

Provocateur, snitch and/or undercover cop.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Self labeled "peacekeeper" so yeah just a cop

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

not a federally-subsidized missile?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Let's point out the guy they shot at was all in black, went behind a wall and started assembling his rifle, then when confronted by the peacekeepers HIRED BY THE PROTEST ORGANIZERS he ran away into the crowd while lifting his rifle into firing position.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

he ran away into the crowd while lifting his rifle into firing position.

So, I haven't followed or heard of this story before, and I cannot say what happened before and after the video in the article, and what info is available outside of this article - but at the moment of the first shot, this clearly was not the case. The video shows him in all black and walking, not running, with his rifle in front, but not raised. The shooter already is in an aiming position at this point, there is nothing audible and no one around the happenings acts like there were instructions or warnings being shouted.

I will give them, that it may have been still a hard to decipher situation, and I cannot say anything about the other claims (preparing the rifle behind a wall) - but at least the whole "running at them with rifle in firing position" was either happening at another time, with them not shooting, or not happening in the way described at all.

So, yeah, their story does not check out as told, could be a whole slew of reasons, but this does not feel like an easy "it was his own fault" situation.

EDIT: Note that the second video in the article (the dashcam one) won't load for me, so I can't comment on that one

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He was a known and active anti fascist protester, open carry is legal in Utah*, and this guy was specifically known for open carrying and dressing like this at demonstrations. AND the "peacekeepers" poor aiming killed someone completely unrelated to any of this. Additionally, the 50501 peacekeepers at this protest were explicitly told not to carry any firearms.

The whole "he shouldn't have been carrying", "he was being suspicious" and general victim blaming is the same garbage rationale the cops use when they kill someone for no good reason. Some dipshit in a hi-vis vest wanted to be a hero and now an innocent person is dead. Fuck that guy

source the section about the shooting starts around the 13:30 mark

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah... that's questionable behavior. I don't really feel like the peacekeepers really meant to kill the other guy. It's a real shame though. I feel like a taser would've been a lot better suited for y'know, crowds. Edit: Actually read the article. They didn't even talk to him first. It's a little weird to have an AR-15 at a peaceful protest. That sorta seems like you're about to shoot it up. But c'mon? Not even talking to him first? A little questionable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

It’s a little weird to have an AR-15 at a peaceful protest.

That was throwing me off, too, but at least anecdotally from within the article and other times I have heard it online, that seems to be not all that uncommon in the US in "open carry law" states. Weirds me out, too, but you would expect that people hired 'based on their “military, first responder and other relevant de-escalation experience.”' as per the statement of the organisers, should have de-escalatory tools for precisely open-carry situations before, well, shooting.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It really really bothers me that the most crucial video (the second one in the article) was butchered by fox. I can't find the original but there's seems to be a pretty big cut.

It jumps from a second volunteer arriving to three volunteers, two of them a second away from shooting.

The article reads like a puff piece too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you are going to insist on wearing a mask and go to protests like this, rifle in hand, then it's only a matter of time before there's going to be a tragedy. How is anyone supposed to know if you're a good guy when you look just like a bad guy? If Arturo had been carrying concealed, or at least kept the rifle on his back, this wouldn't have happened.

[–] WeirdGoesPro 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m with you on the rifle, but black blocking is an effective protest method to keep police from being able to target individuals. If a large number of people wear all black with masks, it becomes harder to prosecute individual protestors.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In a group that is black blocking, yes.

Being the only person lack blocking with an AR 15 on a side street away from the crowd? That's cosplaying as a mass shooter.

[–] WeirdGoesPro 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Again, I totally agree about the gun. You just don’t always know who will be black blocked before you go, so sometimes you are one of only a few.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

If nobody else did it, then don't be the only one. Either skip that protest or blend in without the mask.