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[–] [email protected] 110 points 2 months ago

Wanna join the losing team right before the finals?

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is the worst spycraft I could ever imagine

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago

Any CIA agent born after 1973 doesn't know how to engage in cloak and dagger, they just tweet, eat hot chip, and lie

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well the network of spies they had back in the day were all put in the blender and now no one wants to take the risk, also you could find plenty of hanjian in China back then but life is a whole lot better now.

The real threat is letting the Shanghai liberal clique take over and do a Gorby + Yeltsin, you wanna find CIA spies you look there first.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

At first I thought this was a leak, but no they are just very open about wanting spies in the CPC.

I feel like Trump operates on the assumption that no one will react to counteract whatever strategy he implements. It's the simplest answer I can think of.

Also lmao, all the things they listed as reasons why someone would want to defect (firing, jailed, disappeared) are things the US government has done this year

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago

I feel like Trump operates on the assumption that no one will react to counteract whatever strategy he implements.

Well, when his greatest domestic opposition is the democratic party, it's been a correct and winning assumption. The logic becomes "What's anyone gonna do, impeach me again?" On top of that, when most of the vassals fall immediately in to line when he says so, being good dogs for the US, and the strategy keeps working even with foreign policy, there's not much incentive to do otherwise. Fortunately China is not the Democrats nor are they Europe.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

all the spies they had got got a few years ago so they have to recruit like this

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn Havana syndrome, smdh.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like when you learned to play chess for the first time as a kid.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Big brain strategy: show up to be a spy for the CIA but secretly be a spy for China the whole time

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Treason is the most based crime

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

if a grape betrays his vineyard, they dry him in the sun for traisin

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The Mandarin-language videos are modeled on a series of videos the agency made in recent years asking Russians to spy for the United States, appeals that previous C.I.A. leaders said helped develop new sources.

Sure...

Last year the C.I.A. released instructions in Mandarin [on Youtube] about how people in China could safely use the dark web to contact the agency. The text-only instructional video was viewed 900,000 times. While the Chinese internet is locked down and censored, American officials believe that more sophisticated Chinese officials know how to work around those controls.

Aren't VPNs very common in China?

Here is how NYT described the videos:

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lol they really do not understand a thing about china

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They are describing american problems, expecting them to be similar and then framing them in "the party" language.

It's genuinely dogshit. The old trots turned neocons would cry at this, they were truly the most dangerous, effective and damaging thing we've ever seen.

The correct way to find spies in the CPC is to [I wrote out my entire thoughts on this then decided to delete it and write this instead lmao]

Seriously though, the people that best know how to fuck over communists are other communists.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago

If you think the CCP is hoarding wealth, ousting officials, and tearing families apart then boy howdy do I have a country to talk about!

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

You're getting the death sentence in China if you're caught for this. No doubt about it.

Maybe you'll be offered either death sentence or double agent (closely monitored).

Anyway the applications for this thing are going to be absolutely filled with loyal CPC agents. If I were China I would send my spies to apply as spies for the Americans.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're getting the death sentence in China if you're caught for this. No doubt about it.

Could this be an attempt to make up some "human rights abuses" claims about China? I feel like it's too absurd to actually work for spying, but maybe it is more for manufacturing consent.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

I think you nailed it. If they can get just one person to take the bait and that person ends up getting caught and punished for it, they feed the story to the media framing it like "Authoritarian China cracks down on innocents who just love democracy and freedom (we totally didn't pay them)".

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Having my fake CIA application thrown out when they realize I'm doing a bit

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nick Mullen got through 6 rounds of interviews at the CIA with yellowface and a cone straw hat before they finally found out he was speaking gibberish and was, in fact, an American and the president of the DSA.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they finally realised Rice President was not a position within the CPC

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago

Lol. Lmao, even.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago

"....and he just...just tweeted it out."

Good idea, CIA. Tell everyone about the super secret communication networks you have so the opponent doesn't know what to look for. Once again, former KGB must be absolutely seething.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Spies get executed in the PRC, and not to mention, the quality of life is always improving there, why seek to destroy good things? The only people falling for this have already been in the west for too long and think liberalism works

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean not enough domestic universities, especially good ones given the huge educated population is a very big problem for China. One of the most successful tactics for recruiting spies is guaranteeing the spies children admission in a top American school

See: Xi's daughter attending Harvard

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

This is a rapidly changing situation

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey, agents reading this, all of us speak fluent mandarin. Please give us money.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

我向你挥手,中央情报局!雇用我!我准备好出发了!这就是我!我发誓我没用谷歌翻译!

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

'applicants can reply directly to this twitter post, thank you'

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My name is Zhang Wei and I am a high ranking official in the CCP and totally not some bumbling american oaf named Billy, send me a 10k check please.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

Hello I am Xi Jinping, I am ready to defect to daddy USA, but I first require your bank account details for tax verification purposes

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Looking forward to the trial and execution.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

China is gonna use this and feed them fake information

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There was news in China recently about the CEO of Gree Electric, Dong Mingzhu, saying she would not hire graduates returned from overseas as some are spies. I don't know if this CIA push is also designed to increase distrust of overseas Chinese. The timing doesn't line up because the videos would have taken time to produce, so it's probably coincidental/reflective of the genral trend.

When in the country recently I also saw many public notices about improving the general awareness of national security.

spoilerThe one I saw most was an ad played in which a an officeworker takes a photo of a business document, then decides not to send it to someone over the phone, a jogger comes across a military restricted zone in the hills and decides to turn off her fitness application tracking, and a livestreamer on the coast asks his friend to cut the stream when PLAN ships pass in the background. It was aired on TV, possibly the trains and definitely at the airports. The message was basically civilians also have responsibility in protecting national security. There was another too but I forgor


All this to say that this issue does appear to be within the public conscience in China, so the CIA is likely to want to either nudge that towards paranoia and or take advantage of Chinese nationals who may have not considered becoming informants till this all became news.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They should do the latina recruitment ad again but with a Chinese guy.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Surely it can't be a coincidence that CIA decided to publish this on International Labor Day. I was reading the Chinese MFA this morning for news updates and it said they were closed for the national holiday.

Also this seems to confirm that there isn't ever going to be tariff negotiations. Why should China do trade negotiations with a country that is trying to install spies?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is no way the goal is what they stated. They're obviously not stupid enough to believe any party member would go through with this that wasn't already an agent for Chinese intelligence services. Is this just to provoke China? Is this some sort of cover because they have a means of poking China with some information that they collected elsewhere? Gotta be more than meets the eye.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

lmao they're gonna get some double agents up there

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Damn they've gotten really lazy haven't they.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

did they run out of live boys and dead prostitutes to blackmail officials with? is the communist party engaged in volcelism?

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