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It's definitely happening to 
and it happened to 
and it's also happening, slowly and gradually, to 
. It's like the martyr effect in reverse: the longer they live, the more clownish they appear, even to their own followers. Is there a term for that?
Is there a shorter term for it that is hopefully not from a Nolan movie?
All that "die young to remain a hero" talk feels like even more of Nolan's cryptofascist tendencies bubbling up as they often do.
I imagine most people in post primitive society had a phrase similar to what we're talking about, like only the good die young, seems to be an enduring theme throughout the stages of global human oppression that began around the foundation of fixed agrarian societies
fuckin, patriarchy and shit
"Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero. Or live long enough to see yourself become a villain" - Ye fka. Kanye Omari "Kanye West" West
actually that quote is from Jay-Z's verse