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You won't get anywhere with this. I come from a cult like religious background and my survival relies on me knowing how to daily navigate this very subject. There is no intelligence or logical basis underpinning religious beliefs. It is a system of tribal dogma. Only those in the tribe that are accepted for the role are allowed to disseminate information accepted by the group. All external persons and sources are outsiders and these might as well be aliens. Dogma is absolutely blind to all external forces many times to the point of suicidal death in humans. This same dogma is the power of crusades and jihad through a narrative of a collective imaginary friend that no one has ever spoken to. Such insanity is exceptionally primitive and disordered stupidity. However, the only way to change a dogmatic person is from within. You must either inspire them to general curiosity and interpersonal growth or find a way to infiltrate the tribe gain their trust and acceptance then slowly steer them in a new direction over a very long stretch of time.
This is why people are whatever religion they were raised within. Even those that have the sense to know better than the fantasy god story still never leave because most religions are mutually exclusive social support networks. Leaving such a support network is disadvantageous to survival and the well being of most humans.
The only real solutions to these problems are better education, professional opportunities, and an open and accepting broader culture of people that are willing and able to welcome and tangibly support random outsiders.