i miss marxism leninism
I think the accepted narrative now is that Mao tried to speedrun the revolutions and ended up with a tragedy.
well yeah because the right wing won out, of course they'd say that. Although its true that it would have been better with the improvement of material conditions, and that many methods (highschoolers dont know fuck all don't make them part of a political movement) were incorrect. Generally it was a good thing, and is something that should be strived for. China now is a horrible mess of neo-confucian ideology that will only fan the flames of the burgeoning petite-bourgeoisie class. If they dont have a cultural revolution of their own its very likely a gorbachev like character can start wrecking it down sponsored by the right wing.
A lot of the issues can be attributed by being too decentralized and not effectively establishing a vanguard organization. The Red guards were various in ideologies and dogmatism, and couldn't be effectively controlled when they did over correct. Harassment of people into suicide is one of the famous ones by the more dogmatist cliques that were usually lead by actual teenagers with ultraleft ideologies.
In any case, from a historical point of view, the Cultural Revolution led to the rise of liberal reformers and was a deeply traumatic event for many people including many of the post-Mao era leaders.
Didn't it literally fight against those people though. The right only rose to power because they won, they beat out the revolts, purged the gang of four, basically sidelined mao.
They don't talk about it because it would be bad to actually recognize how far right they deviated in order to fight against the cultural revolution. Its dengists who won, of course they made sure it was killed off and no alternatives exist.
i mean this is a fascist cultural revolution, what do you think the nazis did when they got into power? Kristallnacht
god this is why we need actual socialists not loser fuckin sucdems
Hoxhaists are MLs, Maoists are also MLs, and general anti-revesionist types are MLs, they just have a different line on these types of issues which i can respect. Calling them ultras requires a misunderstanding of their ideology. Maoists themselves have many ongoing insurrections in several countries, and have the longest one in historical record. There is something to what they say if they're able to keep from going reformist and stay revolutionary for so long.
You admit yourself they made a good analysis of chinese history and the economy, remember, they just have different conclusions than you.
Leftcoms are ultras, trots + bukharinists are revisionists ultras, MLs and their adherents are on the correct line.
maoists aren't ultras, leftcoms are ultras, Ultras suck ass
Luckily this sub isn't associated with the org for some reason
Its a prime spot for infiltration because its so decentralized that you cant enforce liberalism. If marxists take control and change the org it could become very powerful.
but DSA is also pretty shit so lol
nah this is just straight up imperialism
i dont care if they're the nicest human being on the planet, I'd rather die than date a fuckin trotskyist
where is the source for this
this country was always a shithole
a liberal