PhilipTheBucket

The early story of McDonald's is one of the great American tragedies. The food used to be excellent fresh-cooked hamburgers, real milkshakes, all this real food and available cheap and fast because they were well-organized. There's a reason it got popular on a historic scale and started making a basically unlimited amount of money. Then, Ray Kroc pulled an Elon Musk on the (original) founders who had invented it all, hijacked the whole thing and took it over, and ruined the food to save money. Not satisfied with having fucked over the McDonald brothers, he then sued them for using their own name and then successfully drove them out of business from even having the single hamburger stand serving real food -- now with a different name -- that was all they had wanted to have in the first place.

It's like everything good and bad about America, all wrapped up in one heart-rending little anecdote. Look up the whole story if you want to get upset.

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They did this in Ukraine right before the shit hit the fan for real, too.

The pro-Russian ruling party at the time was cracking peaceful protestors' skulls, so they started wearing helmets. And then, the helmets became proof that they were up to something violent somehow, and they tried to make helmets illegal. Within about a month it was street battles, fireworks and small arms and bow and arrows.

"It’s common for people across the company to have questions for the CEO, but he doesn’t have time to answer them all," Jean Yves Couput, senior advisor to footwear company Salomon CEO Guillaume Meyzenq, told The Information.

With the help of San-Francisco-based startup Personal AI, Meyzenq trained an AI chatbot to answer his staffers' annoying questions about company culture, mission, and strategy, per Couput.

Where are The Yes Men? I feel like they did this.

Wait, what the fuck?

https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/Salomon-names-guillaume-meyzenq-as-ceo,1680479.html

It's real... I was sure that this was made up to sound out as "John is Kaput" and "Guy Amazing" or something. I cannot believe that there are real life humans who believe that all their underlings are dying to have a bit of their time, to ask them questions about company culture and mission. In all my experience the things I have wanted my boss's time for are "did you look at that thing I sent you" and "can you make a decision about this and then enforce it afterwards please, any decision, literally any at all."

I have seen them at protests, and they do seem organized and they definitely can yell. What the fuck, I'll take it. I feel like it's probably mostly the central leadership that's somehow been corrupted into trying to throw elections to the Republicans and getting upset about us sending aid to Ukraine.

I don't know if the person on the microphone I saw spend most of their speech yelling about Democrats (literally more than 50%) was from the PSL, but I don't know that they were. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say maybe not, fuck it, come along with us, you can do your thing and I can do mine, sounds good.

You and Five aren't 100% wrong, I do take the point that the infighting is a waste of energy. I was all set to apologize and acknowledge, and then I looked at the PSL's web site and it's all still talking about the election, they don't give a shit about progress now that it doesn't involve an election with a Democrat in it, they literally can't even be bothered to take down the video yelling about the election that happened a lifetime ago in a different type of country. Literally the day the election happened, they stopped caring, I guess.

I mean like I say, I do get it. I just felt embittered. Now that I've got it out of my system for a second, yes, we can all rally together and fight this bullshit whether or not the PSL is aware of its role in this catastrophe or interested in self-preservation in future elections going forward.

Take a look at https://pslweb.org/. There's nothing about the protests on Saturday, it doesn't seem to have been updated since the election.

Watch the video. "A system that presents two options, but for all intents and purposes, represents a single billionaire agenda." "I'm tired of hearing this is the biggest election in your lifetime. The reality is, over time, it doesn't matter."

I turned it off when they got upset about us sending aid to Ukraine. It's a little wild and incongruous that they found time to fit that in there, in the same breath as aid to Israel.

Now that millions of people are in the streets and there might be some momentum for lasting change (as well as a terrifying outcome if the resistance isn't strong enough.)... nothing. Now that they fucked up the election, the page hasn't been updated, they don't care anymore. They're not working on building anything non-electoral now that that's getting wildly popular. All their focus was (and still is, apparently), on the election.

They aren't leftists. I feel fine attacking them. Honestly? If there are some confused leftists in their ranks, who unlike the leadership are interested in protests and are getting attacked as a result, then absolutely, let's defend them. That goes without saying. But the PSL doesn't have any sympathy from me. I'm not happy about the leadership being in any crosshairs because of the predictable disaster they helped to cause, no one deserves to get shot because they advocated for something good. But, that was part of the point about rallying against Trump, was that hopefully no one would have to get shot. If they realize it's a big deal now and start fighting, then they should update the web site to talk about that, instead of the election.

Party for Socialism and Liberation: "I plan to continue to express absolutely no urgency about the idea of keeping Republicans out of power. The most important party to criticize is and always has been the Democrats. It's super important not to vote for Democrats. That's the key thing. It's the only way to real forward progress."

The KDP did the exact same thing in Germany in 1932. Most of them were executed in the years following the election.

in the original suggestion they advised sitting but I read some persuasive comments that mentioned sitting down could be dangerous, instead I think leaving is the best approach.

I've heard from someone who testified to me that this is 100% effective after she saw it work multiple times. It instantly isolates the violent people in their own little targeting ring and makes it clear who's not involved (which is pretty much everyone). It worked safely in NYC in every instance she observed, and the NYPD is among the most trigger-happy of the US local agencies.

And what will it do to a person?

In her case, it made her physically weak, she had trouble thinking, and she became irritable and unreasonable. Basically physically, mentally, and emotionally it made her worse.

I mean it does make sense to me. Your body needs energy to function and getting it from complex carbohydrates is a standard way and it's going to struggle if it doesn't have that available. As I understand it, the no-carb diets are sort of well known to produce that kind of impact, although I can definitely believe that there could be people who are having a bad reaction to some particular substance that they're eating so that cutting out all carbs entirely will give them a good result because they're also not being exposed to that substance, I don't think that kind of thing is in general a good thing for the average healthy person to do.

No, not largely meat - Exclusively meat - yes. But that is just my opinion and we don’t need to keep talking in circles about it. The problem with Largely is that sugar and carbs will creep in, and all the associated chronic non-communicable diseases they bring.

I mean that's pretty easy to study. Take a big random sample of people, randomly assign half of them to try that diet, and see what happens.

All I really know is my sample size of 1 person I know who tried that, and she got all fucked up because not eating carbs will do that to a person. But that's not really all that scientific.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/red-meat-and-colon-cancer-the-evidence-remains-weak

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/red-meat

This articles are very well cited (hover over the numbers for the publications)

I read some of the cites and I'm not convinced. It seems mostly like an exercise in misleading citation, taking studies which indicate a lack of indication of one particular factor of X, and claiming that they find definitively that X does not occur, which isn't the same thing.

I’m not in the US.

Got it. Some of what I'm saying about the health risks of meat may not apply in a country with better food standards. I think it's moderately weird that for all the studies and effort that's been spent on this, this doesn't seem to be a chief area of investigation when people talk about the health impacts of eating meat.

• Is sustainable antibiotic free range grass fed meat better then farm meat? Yes
• Is farm meat better then processed food? Yes
• Is farm meat better then farm veggies? Yes (but clearly our opinions differ)

None of these are the question. The question is, "Is it a good idea for a first-world society inhabitant to replace their diet with a largely-meat diet?"

I’ve not seen bad health outcome studies based on meat itself, I’ve seen speculative mechanistic appeals, I don’t find that compelling

Here's a pretty comprehensive attempt to address the issues you're talking about with epidemiological studies:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6971786/