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We live in a very not-brainwashed society 
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you can point out things the CIA has admitted to and libs will still think you're a crank. an astounding level of ignorance
this post was submitted on 16 Nov 2023
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Had a friend basically say that the FBI and CIA used to be crazy, but they're totally above board nowadays
It's cause they're woke now.
Heard they allow LGBTQ employees into the Torture Division, what is the world coming to?
"Well Mr. Al-rafiq, if you don't want to tell us where the entrance to the Hamas tunnels is, we have ways of making you talk. Tell me...have you ever tried getting gender-affirming healthcare...in Mississippi?"
The new take him to Detroit
I miss the days when the CIA wasn't run by latina women with 3 children and generalized anxiety disorder 
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Yeah, love how I pointed out that Chomsky/Parenti shows that the news media is so compliant that Operation Mockingbird isn't even needed by the CIA anymore, and being treated as some unhinged crank by my friends.
Perceiving reality is crank behavior
Oh yeah, they go all "sure they used to do that but not anymore!" and then you just feel insane
I'm the shithead for pointing out we've figured out how to feed the world but instead throw half of our food away or more in order to maintain "the market."
My colleagues will look at me as if I'm insane if I even say the most mundane of statements like "infinite growth isn't possible"
uhm sweaty we have transitioned from a manufacturing to a service and financial based society and you can have infinite financial things happening because it's just bits flipping on a computer
also somehow that makes the world more gooder
It's very deliberate
It's a lot easier to dismiss an argument when you have the thought-terminating cliche of "Conspiracy Theory" ready for any statement that takes more than 3/5's of a second to explain
Never mind that the whole reason we have a distinct word for "conspiracy" is because it's a phenomenon that you encounter in the real world.
Me: brings up a good point that compares or contrasts an AES to the west
Them: THAT'S WHATABOUTISM!!!!1!!!
Me: ...and?
Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?
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Holy shit that thing is loose in the wild and I love it.
Honestly couldn't have been introduced to it at a better time. It's hilarious.
It really was pretty slick of them to just come up with a term that means "pointing our hypocrisy" that somehow negates the hypocrisy.
Absolutely. I can't even figure out how to approach some arguments without it though.
It's like I'm not trying to say my guy killing people is ok or whatever, I'm trying to say others can't condone the bad parts of, say the USSR, while willfully ignoring the whole history of the United States as essentially a global terrorism state.
But as soon as I drop the Big W, they act like they won for recognizing a fallacy or some shitm
Yea you would think pointing out we do the exact thing, often times worse, so we aren't really in any position to condemn or, if some libs had their way, invade another country because of it would be a pretty airtight argument but unfortunately whether they realize it or not libs are just as hypocritical as chuds when it comes to the foreign policy positions of "it's ok when we do it, if anybody else does it it's completely unacceptable"
It's especially bizarre because one could argue comparison is the basis for all logic and reason
How do you even understand anything about the world without ever comparing 2 things? It would be impossible
Whatabotism as a concept is an insult to all intelligent life, the english language (critical support) and especially whichever of our ancestors first evolved to rub two braincells together and be capable of comparing things in the rirst place
I'd go as far as saying that believing in whataboutism is a rejection of sentience
most propagandized population in 400,000 years of human history
Try asking them why they think its a conspiracy theory?
Barbie (Margot Robbie) is on the floor. Weird Barbie (Kate McKinnon) is asking her why she was immune to the patriarchy brainwashing.
Barbie: "My exposure to the real world must have made me immune. You're either brainwashed or you're weird and ugly. There is no in between.
Weird Barbie: "Sing it sister."
Real theory
Hexbear is the Necronomicon. Reading it imparts knowledge which all seems reasonable to the reader, but to an outsider they are stark raving mad.
And also like a cursed tome, much of what drives you mad isn't the magic spells and alchemical sigils, but the secret histories, the sudden awareness of a world of agony and nightmare roiling just inches beneath the placid surface of our social pond, and the callous alien god-thing lurking beneath that even now feeds on us all (it's capital).
I have definitely used this to explain how it feels when learning about newly comprehensible man made horrors that have existed or are going to, back during year 1 of covid
But more or less the knowledge gained weighing heavily and making one mad, not so much the outsider peering in.
That sounds like plain old cognitive dissonance.
that's the point baybee
what things were you thinking about? I get it.