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[–] [email protected] 103 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well kudos to him for being a Republican standing up for the constitutional separation of church and state.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Apparently that's not what he's standing up for. They're not the right religion. When Republicans make decisions, the seeing irrational or against their normal behavior. Always assume there's bigotry tied to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

He seems to grasp that all religions should be prohibited from getting state funds.

From the article:

“Make no mistake, if the Catholic Church were permitted to have a public virtual charter school, a reckoning will follow in which this state will be faced with the unprecedented quandary of processing requests to directly fund all petitioning sectarian groups,” the lawsuit states.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 years ago (1 children)

not with my fucking tax dollars you aren't. good on this guy for fighting back

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He happens to be on the right side of this issue, but from the totally wrong direction. He's against it because those scary Muslims might open a school too.

Make no mistake, if the Catholic Church were permitted to have a public virtual charter school, a reckoning will follow in which this State will be faced with the unprecedented quandary of processing requests to directly fund all petitioning sectarian groups...For example, this reckoning will require the State to permit extreme sects of the Muslim faith to establish a taxpayer funded public charter school teaching Sharia Law. Consequently, absent the intervention of this Court, the Board members’ shortsighted votes in violation of their oath of office and the law will pave the way for a proliferation of the direct public funding of religious schools whose tenets are diametrically opposed by most Oklahomans.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I want to give the benefit of the doubt here and assume he knows his audience, so playing it this way ensures it gets killed.

Kind of a does the end justify the means sort of situation...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know the fella beyond this news item, so you may be right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I wish more of us gave each other the benefit of the doubt. I refuse to believe most people are assholes... only some. Don't let the few dominate your thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In its application, the Archdiocese said its vision is that the school “participates in the evangelizing mission of the Church and is the privileged environment in which Christian education is carried out."

I think this is the closest you'd ever get them on tape to admitting that they want to brainwash your kids into Evangelicals

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

While Catholics consider themselves evangelical, I wouldn't lump them directly in with the greater "Evangelical" label.

That said, I highly doubt these Catholics are Jesuits out to offer a quality education considering the plan is to do an online K-12 school. Should be rejected on that alone.

Edit: Yeah, this archbishop is a Benedictine that was appointed by Ratzinger and signed off on a letter calling for an investigation into Francis. He's one of the shitty ones.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every Republican is for fully tax-payer funded religious schools until the phrase "tax-payer supported Muslim madrasa" is uttered. Then, it is back to the weird game of religious home-schooling and particular state-approved partially religious charter schools that are only one from religion.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it's pretty telling that pretty much all the taxpayer funded religious stuff goes away real fast when it gets opened up to any other religion. Whether it be prayers at meetings, school clubs and programs, etc. The Satanic Temple has done a lot of that.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's all fun and games until The Satanic Temple show up.

then it's a party.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I love The Satanic Temple and totally approve of their methods. Their way of trolling the Christian rights' insufferable need to put their dicks into everything, is what I live for! They do so much good for their communities. They're the "troll" version of humanists.

-written from inside a Christian healthcare facility

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Average Catholic reaction when they see an unraped child

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you mean catholic priest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

Meh. Doubt it. The priests do the rape, congregation claps them on. May as well simply assume anyone of the catholic faith rapes children. Easier than being nice to them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Just like all Muslims beat their wives and all Jews care about is money? Grow up dude, stereotyping the average Joe is gross. It's fine to mock establishments but regular people are mostly well meaning idiots.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Based Republican W. Never thought I'd say that after dubya

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Oklahoma’s Republican Attorney General Gentner Drummond on Friday sued to stop a state board from establishing and funding what would be the nation’s first religious public charter school after the board ignored Drummond’s warning that it would violate both the state and U.S. constitutions.

“Make no mistake, if the Catholic Church were permitted to have a public virtual charter school, a reckoning will follow in which this state will be faced with the unprecedented quandary of processing requests to directly fund all petitioning sectarian groups,” the lawsuit states.

In its application, the Archdiocese said its vision is that the school “participates in the evangelizing mission of the Church and is the privileged environment in which Christian education is carried out.”

The approval of a publicly funded religious school is the latest in a series of actions taken by conservative-led states that include efforts to teach the Bible in public schools, and to ban books and lessons about race, sexual orientation and gender identity.

Oklahoma’s Constitution specifically prohibits the use of public money or property from being used, directly or indirectly, for the use or benefit of any church or system of religion.

“Not only is this an irreparable violation of our individual religious liberty, but it is an unthinkable waste of our tax dollars,” Drummond said in a statement.


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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

my school to Dionysus is on hold, then

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

One of the very few times I agree with the elephant camp.