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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very sad. I drive through there (1 block west of 41st and Knight) often. Hopefully the citywide speedlimit reduction on residential streets can help this city implement needed changes to physical infrastructure and traffic law enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

A reduction in speed is a great first start, but it needs to be followed by a dedicated desire for total and systematic roadway redesign. For one the current design is neither a street or a road, it's design as something in between called a "strode".

Lanes widths and counts need to be reduced. Center medians added, raised pedestrian crosswalks to prevent hard right or left turns. Removal of dedicated left or right turn lanes to minimize pedestrain crossing distances at intersections. Tree canopys added to act as traffic calming. Transit corridors moved off the street and into a separate and dedicated route with priority signals.

Once you start to get older and your mobility decreases, or you loose the ability to drive yourself around, you start to notice how North American suburbs are not friendly towards the elderly, or the young for that matter. Places we live in should be enjoyable to walk, cycle and move around independently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully the citywide speedlimit reduction on residential streets can help this city implement needed changes to physical infrastructure and traffic law enforcement.

Suburbs are awful for non-drivers, and will be a ton of work to improve, but Culloden(/Knight) and 41st is not a suburb. It's where two major thoroughfares (41st and Knight) pass through a low density residential neighbourhood. We need an investigation with recommendations, but I suspect civil/traffic engineers know what's needed and the problem is really too many carbrained voters to make serious widespread progress.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I agree, these two stroads actually seem to want to be roads and not streets.

The simple truth is roadway classifications in North America need a overhaul. Most people can't list the difference between a street or a road. Then comes the unfortunate issue when a proper road is proposed most think it's actually a highway (though most road proposals do seem to be over engineered in design and borderline look like Hwys).

Streets are destinations, they are low speed 20-40kpm with many places for pedestrians to cross and walk, there are driveways and intersections. Homes and businesses face streets. Street parking is common. In some cases vehicle travel is restricted. Streets are multi use for all modes of transportation, walking, cycling included. Lanes of traffic should not exceed two lanes.

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Roads are throughways. They have a higher speed between 50-80kpm with reduced conflict zones between vehicles traffic and pedestrian traffic. Roads don't have driveways and signaled intersections are not used, roundabouts and on/off ramps are used. Homes and businesses do not face roads, there is not street parking on roads. Roads act as a slower speed hwy. Roads generally have center mediums such as grass or curbs. Lanes of traffic should not exceed three lanes.

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In terms of roadway designs streets should only connect with roads and roads should only connect with Hwys. The connection and transition needs to be gradual with clear destination. For example a hwy interchange should not empty into a street.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A 78-year-old woman, hit by a Range Rover. That intersection is a hell scape, having to cross six lanes of traffic with dedicated left and right turn lanes. The street is designed like a "strode".

At least the driver remained, but places like this should not exist. Cities should be designed for the people that live in them, and not cars traveling "through".

Unrelated, those electrified bus lanes, pretty cool (though implementation could be better with a truly separate line to reduce conflict zones).

FYI, Toronto had those back in the 1920 they were called trolley coaches. You can read about it here and see some old pictures if interested.

https://stevemunro.ca/2021/12/24/a-brand-new-electric-bus-for-the-ttc-9020-on-charter-april-20-1969/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean.....I have no idea which side to take. The article gives me nothing to work with.

In general, I'm very fuck cars. However, what happened? Was she hit on the sidewalk? Was she crossing the road? Was she walking in the street instead of the sidewalk? Was the driver speeding? Did the driver run a red light? Was the driver drunk? Was the driver distracted by a cell phone? Was the woman jaywalking? Were there any visual obscurities?

All I know is that a 78 year old woman died after being hit by an SUV, which tells me nothing, and that the driver stayed on the scene, which tells me it wasn't intentional.

Outside of that, I can't make any logical conclusion on whether this article even belongs here. It might. I just have no way of knowing if the woman was at fault, the driver was at fault, or if the fact that it was an SUV was at fault. I don't know.

[–] outhouseperilous -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Welcome to the car apologia hour!

You realize that this is [email protected] and not [email protected] right?

Does anyone? I had to check. I always have to check.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometime i'm not sure whether fuckcars is for literally hating car or hating car-centric city planning. Sidebar says the latter, but people's behaviour says the former.

[–] outhouseperilous -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In practice it's for hating bikes and pedestrians and making up imaginary limits for what trains can do. But that's only in the comments.

Top level posts should adhere to side bar; the horror of car centric culture, design, etc.

And comments should be why we dont need to stop having cars we actually just need to go back to fdr new deal style cars but not quite that far because thay would be communist and ametica still had trains but like the 1960s or whatever. And also nobody in a car ever did anything wrong. And also one more lane would fix everything, but yes two would be excessive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Knight Street(nearest major steet) and 41st is dangerous. Big intersection.

I'd wager the SUV was speeding through the light at 41st and Knight, then rushing through the intersection at Culloden.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

These shitty SUVs...

[–] outhouseperilous 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In before car brains defending the driver

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ThIs wOuLdn’T hAvE HaPpeNeD iF KnIgHt StrEeT had mOrE lAnES for cArS!!!

[–] outhouseperilous 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't forget

The driver did nothing wrong! How else were they supposed to get to work!? Trains cannot work! The pedestrian is to blame, if it didn't want to die it should have been driving its ford F40k FLESHREAPER ™ blood for the car god©!