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I really never have believed times improved, and i am almost positive things will only get worse.

30 years ago we had a future to look to, the unshittified internet, great music, affordable land/housing, affordable durable cars, people actually interacted in real life, no social media trash. Now, we have billionaires and LLMs. I don't see how anyone can possibly think times are better or going to improve.

Yes, everyone will say "civil rights improved" and yes thats maybe the only thing that has changed, however it's getting taken away every day again so I don't think you can even use that point anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Medicine has improved by leaps and bounds. We have greater life expectancy and mostly a better quality of health along the way. Child mortality is down globally.

https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/child-mortality?time=1996..latest

Improvements in our understanding of neurodivergent students has resulted in better educational and quality of life outcomes for millions who in past decades would have fallen through the cracks.

The proliferation of environmental lead from paint and gasoline are WAY down, and the hole in the Ozone was just about peak in 1995.

Open source, public domain, and freely available knowledge have democratized education, technology, research, and product development in ways that would have almost been inconcievable in 1995.

We are able to communicate more globally, even with total strangers, often across language barriers, and for free.

Video games, films, and television are able to create visions that would have been technically impossible 30 years ago. And technology has reduced the barriers for people to gain entry into those industries.

I carry around a tiny super computer with instant access to all the world's knowledge. That would have been a dream in 1995.

There are of course many things that are worse. It's a harder time to be starting out in life. "Luxuries" are dirt cheap and necesities are unaffordable. We've traded our sense of community for a paranioa of "others" even as the world has gotten safer. Globally the world has been swinging toward extremism and it constantly feels like capitalism may collapse and we don't know what comes next if that happens. But failure to see how much is better and for how many seems like too much doom scrolling and too narrow and outlook.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Technology is better slightly

Society is worse

The economy is worse

The environment is worse

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

the unshittified internet

If you were in the 1% or whatever of the developed-world population that had it, a nice collection of bookmarks and an hour to load every image over your shitty dialup.

Like, I'll go ahead and say the internet has gotten worse, but only after a decade or two where it got much, much better.

As for the rest of the stuff, the 90's were kind of a sweet spot. The Cold War was over, the new gilded age was just starting to gather and some of the 20th century problems were on their way out. Leaded gasoline, rampant littering, near-disposable cars and cigarette smoke everywhere are more 1980's and earlier in my head.

90's music is often terrible to my ears, by the way, and grinding was weird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

90s alt rock is a pretty deep genre. Music-wise, I might take the 90s over either of the decades that followed it. And I'm sure that's because it's better and not because I grew up with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Okay, I do like some music from the 90's. Some of it straight up sounds like parody now, though. I wasn't sure WTF was going on when I heard "Too Close" for the first time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Like, I’ll go ahead and say the internet has gotten worse, but only after a decade or two where it got much, much better.

Yeah. 90s internet was really novel and interesting and unique, but after a couple hours you got bored. There wasn't that much happening on it. Also slow as all hell.

Then internet speeds picked up and there was enough content to keep you basically permanently entertained. Lot of entertaining stuff. The Age of Memes was truly upon us.

Then the bad actors and village idiots were able to easily get access and understand they could use the internet for nefarious reasons and it's been getting shittier for about the last decade or so. Realistically, probably around the time smartphones came out and the influx of fools was of tsunami proportions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Tech is better. But life is a lot worse in general. Unless you're part of a marginalized group I suppose.

We've gone from a bright shining future to no future at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Tech is better

Tech was only better until like maybe 2015-2016. We're a solid decade into enshitification across the board. I can't even find a phone I actually want to replace mine that is finally failing after 8 years and the car situation isn't looking much better, fortunately I don't have to deal with that for a while (hopefully).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Unless you’re part of a marginalized group I suppose.

This is a pretty dismissive take. "Sure, things have improved for the blacks and queers, but what about us... uh, regular folk?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Wasn't intended that way.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I think a lot of the tech is responsible for the shitty life. Tech got better until perhaps end of the naughts. After that it's just one bullshit excuse after the other to make devices obsolete as quick as possible. Plus the complete enshittification of the internet.

I'm just glad that decentralized social media is becoming a thing and the FOSS movement is huge.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

According to social psych, this is called reconstructive memory, "reconstructing past behaviour" - tending to underreport bad behaviour and overreport good behaviour, sometimes remisrecalling our past as worse to justify self- improvement.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, 30 years ago the AIDS crisis was still going strong and, in the US at least, same-gender relationships were illegal and the LGBT community didn't have a right to work, and on top of that same-sex marriage was illegal. A lot of rights are rolled into marriage, including the ability to remain at the bedside of your loved-one when they are at the hospital or on their deathbed, arranging and/or attending your partner's funeral, and being allowed to remain in your house after your spouse dies. Through the 80s and 90s, gay men were losing partners left and right and some were kicked out of their partners' funerals and then kicked out of the house they had lived in for decades because the title was in their partner's name since they couldn't sign together.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell was also started in 1994.

Same sex relationships weren't made legal until June 26, 2003 (Lawrence v TX) Same Sex Marriage on June 26, 2015 (Hodges v Obergefell) Discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in the workplace was barred in the US June 15, 2020 (Bostock v Clayton)

Even with all the holes Republicans drilled into it, the Affordable Care Act helps many people get health insurance. We also have medication that prevents the transmission of HIV and that prevents the onset of AIDS, saving many lives.

In 1995, the internet was in its infancy, at least compared to today and was largely text-based. If a website had a bunch of pictures, it took take 5-15 minutes to load depending on your location, provided nobody killed the connection with an incoming call.

Sure the mindset nowadays is much more pessimistic, even thought the ruling class from the 90s is aging out of power. We just need people ready to push us forward as more of the silent generation and baby boomer politicians leave office.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You're right that a lot has changed for the better, especially when it comes to legal rights for LGBTQ+ people. The AIDS crisis was devastating and compounded by the cruelty of being denied the most basic recognitions like visiting your partner in the hospital or even being allowed to stay in your home after they passed. Legal victories like Lawrence v. Texas, Obergefell, and Bostock were historic, and they represent real, hard-won progress.

But I think it's also important to recognize that legal inclusion doesn't always mean liberation. A lot of those rights are still tied to institutions like marriage, which leave out anyone who doesn't fit that mold. Marriage shouldn't be the gateway to healthcare or housing security. That just reinforces the idea that some relationships or lives are more worthy of protection than others.

Same goes for healthcare. The Affordable Care Act helped, but it still left healthcare tied to jobs and profit. Life-saving medications exist, but they’re still out of reach for many because of how expensive and inaccessible our system is. PrEP, for example, is amazing in what it can do, but the fact that it's rationed through patents and insurance barriers says a lot about who this system really serves.

And while the internet has opened up huge spaces for connection and organizing, it also turned our identities into data and our attention into profit. Social media connects, but it also surveils and exploits. So even in our victories, the system keeps finding ways to profit off our survival.

I think the pessimism today is more than just a vibe shift. People feel it because they know deep down that we’re still not free. That our progress is fragile, often built on the same systems that oppress others. The question isn’t just whether things are better. It’s whether we’re building something that won’t keep leaving people behind.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Crime has declined by 50% or more beginning in the mid to late 1980s and early 1990. While we still have some of the highest crime rates compared to other developed countries. I still think that this is something to be proud of.

Also we are improving our urban planning to make our cities more walkabke, bicyclable, and livable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A few technological aspects of life are incredibly easier and more accessible. We have instant access to any form of information, from porn to encyclopedia articles. Comparing prices and ordering things - commonly called "mail order" 30 years ago - took weeks compared to a couple days now. Communication is far easier and cheaper - talking between San Francisco and Stockholm or Singapore would have cost several dollars per minute 30 years ago, and now it's a built-in feature of network access. Most of us have in our pockets a telephone, photo/video camera, advanced computer, entertainment and game console. There have also been some notable medical advances - my friend died from leukemia in the 90s, and it's very treatable now, along with various kinds of tumors.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Medical technology has greatly improved. More people survive cancer, aids, surgery is far less invasive, and better medications.

Technology in general is getting better.

We have a faster internet. I love having access to so much information. Sure, there are far more gullible fools who believe in all manner of silly stuff but I feel the internet has done more good than bad.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Life expectancy has gone up about 2 years since 1995 (from 76 to 78). Not a massive difference TBH.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

Look at that dip right before 2020! Wonder why America dipped so much lower. Surely, face-masks as a way to prevent the spread of infectious disease wasn't suddenly a controversial issue!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The one grape I have with the medical technology thing is the fact that if I used any of it I would be in debt for the rest of my life which would be longer because of the technology

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is only an America problem though

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Since it hasn't been mentioned, one thing that I am truly thankful for that we have improved since the 1990s is public smoking. Not having to be prepared for the reek of cigarettes in virtually every public space is such a big win.

Hell, in 1990, which is 35 years ago, you could still smoke on airplanes in the US. Airplanes! Can you imagine flying back then? Your neighbor could light up and there was nothing you could do but sit there and stew in the smoke stream. I'm glad I never had to experience flying with smoke but I had my fair share of being forced to sit in smoking sections of restaurants until my teenage years.

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[–] antlion 14 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Yeah it’s better than in 1995.

  • Vehicles have gotten much more efficient, quieter, and safer (for the occupants)
  • Electric-assist bicycles
  • Smartphones and fiber internet
  • Making orders, reservations, and appointments online rather than with agents or phone calls
  • Less crime
  • More organic food choices
  • Better coffee roasters
  • More artisan bread bakers
  • More locally made fine beer, wine, and cheese
  • Less air pollution (including cigarette smoke)
  • Better television and movies at home
  • Affordable solar energy, batteries and off-grid living

I’m sure there more I’m not thinking of. I’d have a hard time going back to 1995.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I miss the wild west internet of the late 90s, early 2000s but it wasn't better. Dial-up sucked.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Times in general? No. Certain aspects? Yes, even with fascist rule.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

HA no. I was there, it was... Well differently bad, maybe less in aggregate. Cultural attitudes really took a HARD turn when 9/11 happened, and the government abused it just about as hard as they could think of. President Obama did try to bring back some of that 90s optimism, but then along came Trump and ground it into dust.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I was around for that time, and yes in many ways the world is better now, it's a mixed bag but:

My kids were not beat up in school for being queer.

The bay is much cleaner (though that is going in the wrong direction)

Solar power has come down in cost so much that there is hope for the clean energy transition to accelerate.

I was literally paid less than the men doing the same job I was doing, openly, in the early 1990s. And there was smoking in offices.

Violent crime is much less prevalent than it was back then. My kids don't have to be as careful or afraid as I was.

Overall - I don't think it is useful to be nostalgic, there are enough changes in a positive direction, sure we had more hope for the future in the 1990s but the reason we needed it was because things were kinda shitty.

[–] exasperation 11 points 3 days ago

Yup, 100%. Gotta acknowledge the mixed bag.

It's almost certainly better today for anyone who is gay or trans than 30 years ago. We have a long way to go, and there may have been some backsliding in the last 5 years, but things are undeniably better today than in the 90's.

Certain aspects of race are better today. As recently as 1993, a majority of Americans still believed that interracial marriage should be illegal.

Food is way better. Back in the 90's, there wasn't a ton of variety in restaurants available in all except the biggest cities, and a lot of food trends were still boring with flavor (plus we were still in the low fat craze that made things taste worse). Even groceries were pathetic in comparison: fresh produce didn't have nearly as many choices, and was expensive, so most people were eating canned and frozen produce by default. Little things like being able to choose apples that weren't red delicious, or potatoes that weren't russets, tend to be taken for granted today.

Health and safety are better in most ways, but worse in some others. Obviously obesity and related diseases are worse today. So are some conditions like allergies, certain autoimmune disorders, certain cancers. But most cancers are less deadly today than 30 years ago. Traumatic injuries from workplaces and car accidents are down, and are better treated. And the huge diversity in the population for health means that a lot of people are living healthier than ever, even while a lot of people are less healthy than before. Life expectancy keeps creeping up in the cities, health expectancy seems to be up, too.

Air quality seems way better, with smog and acid rain pushed down with successful regulations. And people don't smoke as much anymore, especially indoors.

We can pursue our diverse interests from anywhere. If you drill down on pretty much any hobby, people who are really into that hobby have way more opportunities to share in that interest with people worldwide.

There's a bunch of bad stuff, too. But we should also appreciate the good things that have improved in recent times.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Depends who you ask. Things are better for the LGBTQ+ community. Still not as they should be, but I see a generation of kids now who are accepting, whereas 30 years ago, it was the worst thing anyone could accuse you of.

You say that civil rights may go away, but we do have them right now, and as our kids get older, they might not be so willing to take them away.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Convenience-wise? Yes. A lot of things are easier to get taken care of now. From being able to handle DMV shit online to organizing events to paying bills. All way easier than they used to be.

Everything else....yeah, no. Things are not good economically. Things are not good socially. Things are not good civically. Stress levels are high. Suicides are up. Wealth disparity is getting insane. Finding career jobs with good employers is rough. Have fun buying a house. You might be on the street if you have a medical emergency. Fuck you if you're poor.

Generally speaking, things are getting worse, but we've got some cool tech and easier payment methods while everything else goes to shit, so we've got that going for us.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Yes, the ozone hole is healing, we have less lead in the environment coming from leaded fuel, cars in general have become more fuel efficient, there are plenty of things that are way better now, than 30 years ago.

There is great music being made here in 2025, though the general music taste has stagnated for a long time.

Medical procedures have absolutely got better, as has tech in general, in 1995 we used CRT monitors with our computers, we used ball mice that constantly needed to be cleaned.

This is just some of the things that have improved.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The sheer amount of street level crimes, bar fights, car break-ins that existed in those days would blow your mind. Things have changed so much and yet everyone seems to have forgotten. I can't speek for the 'worst' neighbourhoods in the US nowadays but back in the 70s - 80s whole sections of US cities were shitholes. Media make's everything look way worse than reality.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm so sorry to be the one to tell you this but 30 years ago was the mid 90s, not the 70s-80s

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

30 years ago the Internet was tiny, and to this day you can largely get the same experience if you opt to ignore some of the more frustrating Internet. In practice it is a problem that extremist views can come closer together without the moderating influence of those physically near you. would definitely appreciate a harder push back towards federation and a break from subscription based software, though compared to 30 years ago, the free software today is better than anything we had back then.

Our cars were not durable, drive trains can take a whole lot more negligence than they used to and hoses and gaskets last longer than they did back then. There have been struggles with some cars adding turbos for efficiency, but even those are way less problematic than they used to be.

We can interact in real life, we just largely don't. As an adult I probably interact with peers about as much as my parents did when they were my age, not much at all. Constant hanging out goes away with age for most people.

There's a lot of regression in the world but that pendulum swings back and forth.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago

Crime in 1995 was...let's just say... fucking worse in virtually every category...by a lot. Waco and ruby ridge had just happened. As for poverty, there are the same number of people on poverty in 2023 a there were in 1995. Let's talk violence against women. It's tragic today at shockingly high rates. It was much worse in 1995.

Don't be a woman, or a non white man, or poor, or non cis and you are probably just fine back in 1995.

...cept for abortion. Fuck Trump.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For LGBTQ rights? Definitely. For the climate? Way worse. Politically? Way worse. Economically... I'd way we are in a big bubble like the roaring 20s before the great depression. And when it pops, it's gonna be bad, thanks to idiot voters and corrupt Republicans.

Government-wise...things are not looking good. It will take a very long time to rebuild.

Now...state-wise, I know my state is way better off than it was 30 years ago, but that doesn't mean we aren't about to get slammed by braindead antics of the federal government. But we have made a lot of infrastructure investments that are paying off locally. The future of America will be exclusively in states that put a premium on science and progress.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Yes, everyone will say "civil rights improved"

Gay marriage was only legalized due to a Supreme Court decision that declared same sex marriage bans to be unconstitutional.

Since then, Republicans have appointed replacement justices, and it was they who overturned Roe v Wade and upheld a lot of Trump's recent antics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

30 years ago we THOUGHT we had a future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the 90s, people's minds were blown by Crash Bandikoot, now I play Balatro and Hollow Knight. Sometimes I play The Finals, a 3D game so realistic you need to use a sniper scope to see textures, and buildings can be completely destroyed every match. While this may blow the minds of most people in the 90s, honestly it doesn't even phase me, Balatro and Hollow Knight are so good, I prefer them most days.

Yeah, this is way better.

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[–] imetators 12 points 3 days ago

Yes and no. Some things got better and easier than 30 years ago. Some things entshittified beyond reasonable expectations.

We got phones which act as a device to connect the world with endless amount if information, entertainment and is a great tool for personal comfort yet the same things are twisted to a degree where we cant live without a phone anymore. Can't not to have a social media account, we got fully compliant to the surveillance that is happening to us not even that we are tracked not only for the governments of our countries but mainly by advertisers in order to manipulate us into buying crap we don't need.

Feels like a double edged sword to me personally.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

30 years ago? So 1995. As one who was there: fuck no. The 90s where cool, everything seemed fixed, osties travelling through Europe in their Trabant 2 stroke miniature cars. (That was fun on the Autobahn) Only Saddam was jerking around and that was far away, internet was brand new, everything seemed possible. No terrorist threat of the RAF, IRA or the bask separation front. There was even hope for peace in Israel.

But if you would say 40 or 50 years ago? I would say fuck yes. It's much better nowadays.The cold war was wild. The recession of the 80s was bleak af, Thatcher, Reagan. PLO, RAF, IRA, Basks. No man, there was a reason behind films like aliens, Terminator and punk music. Why they resonated with society at that time. Contrary to current popular belief the 80s was not a decade long neon party. Many people lost their jobs. Youth unemployment was at it's highest ever. No jobs, no houses available. It was dark. Darkest time of my life. Everyone thought nuclear war was inevitable. We would all die of radiation or in the cold harsh nuclear winter. Yup. That was the Outlook at that time.

70s was the all time high of the cold war, oil crisis, something else i'm forgetting. But I was a small child back then so everything about that era is hearsay.

But for me? The 90s where good. 80s sucked hard. (End) 70s also had a lot of downs.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Technology is better, crime rates better, environmental issues were better, LGBT rights and racism seemed better. But the gap between rich and poor has grown, wages have stagnated. And now I fear we are regressing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Gay rights and racial equality were getting better up through the Bush era, IMO, and then they started to move in the other direction. Now they're getting worse very quickly.

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