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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Yeah... It's useful for summarizing searches but I'm tempted to disable it in VSCode because it's been getting in the way more than helping lately.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I work for an adtech company and im pretty much the only developer for the javascript library that runs on client sites and shows our ads. I dont use AI at all because it keeps generating crap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I have to use it for work by mandate, and overall hate it. Sometimes it can speed up certain aspects of development, especially if the domain is new or project is small, but these gains are temporary. They steal time from the learning that I would be doing during development and push that back to later in the process, and they are no where near good enough to make it so that I never have to do the learning at all

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Explain this too me AI. Reads back exactly what's on the screen including comments somehow with more words but less information Ok....

Ok, this is tricky. AI, can you do this refactoring so I don't have to keep track of everything. No... Thats all wrong... Yeah I know it's complicated, that's why I wanted it refactored. No you can't do that... fuck now I can either toss all your changes and do it myself or spend the next 3 hours rewriting it.

Yeah I struggle to find how anyone finds this garbage useful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This was the case a year or two ago but now if you have an MCP server for docs and your project and goals outlined properly it's pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Not to sound like one of the ads or articles but I vice coded an iOS app in like 6 hours, it's not so complex I don't understand it, it's multifeatured, I learned a LOT and got a useful thing instead of doing a tutorial with sample project. I don't regret having that tool. I do regret the lack of any control and oversight and public ownership of this technology but that's the timeline we're on, let's not pretend it's gay space communism (sigh) but, since AI is probably driving my medical care decisions at the insurance company level, might as well get something to play with.

[–] KairuByte 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If you give it the right task, it’s super helpful. But you can’t ask it to write anything with any real complexity.

Where it thrives is being given pseudo code for something simple and asking for the specific language code for it. Or translate between two languages.

That’s… about it. And even that it fucks up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I bet it slows down the idiot software developers more than anything.

Everything can be broken into smaller easily defined chunks and for that AI is amazing.

Give me a function in Python that if I provide it a string of XYZ it will provide me an array of ABC.

The trick is knowing how it fits in your larger codebase. That's where your developer skill is. It's no different now than it was when coding was offshored to India. We replaced Ravinder with ChatGPT.

Edit - what I hate about AI is the blatant lying. I asked it for some ServiceNow code Friday and it told me to use the sys_audit_report table which doesn't exist. I told it so and then it gave me the sys_audit table.

The future will be those who are smart enough to know when AI is lying and know how to fix it when it is. Ideally you are using AI for code you can do, you just don't want to. At least that's my experience. In that, it's invaluable.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You shouldn't think of "AI" as intelligent and ask it to do something tricky. The boring stuff that's mostly just typing, that's what you get the LLMs to do. "Make a DTO for this table " "Interface for this JSON "

I just have a bunch of conversations going where I can paste stuff into and it will generate basic code. Then it's just connecting things up, but that's the fun part anyway.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most ides do the boring stuff with templates and code generation for like a decade so that's not so helpful to me either but if it works for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Yeah but I find code generation stuff I've used in the past takes a significant amount of configuration, and will often generate a bunch of code I don't want it to, and not in the way I want it. Many times it's more trouble than it's worth. Having an LLM do it means I don't have to deal with configuring anything and it's generating code for the specific thing I want it to so I can quickly validate it did things right and make any additions I want because it's only generating the thing I'm working on that moment. Also it's the same tool for the various languages I'm using so that adds more convenience.

Yeah if you have your IDE setup with tools to analyze the datasource and does what you want it to do, that may work better for you. But with the number of DBs I deal with, I'd be spending more time setting up code generation than actually writing code.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (56 children)

Experienced software developer, here. "AI" is useful to me in some contexts. Specifically when I want to scaffold out a completely new application (so I'm not worried about clobbering existing code) and I don't want to do it by hand, it saves me time.

And... that's about it. It sucks at code review, and will break shit in your repo if you let it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

On that last note, important thing they left out here being general news reporting tech stuff is that this was specifically bug fixing tasks. It can typically only provide the broadest of advice on that, and it’s largely incapable of tackling problems holistically when you often need to be thinking big picture while tackling a bug.

Interesting that the AI devs thought they were being quicker though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Same. I also like it for basic research and helping with syntax for obscure SQL queries, but coding hasn't worked very well. One of my less technical coworkers tried to vibe code something and it didn't work well. Maybe it would do okay on something routine, but generally speaking it would probably be better to use a library for that anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I actively hate the term "vibe coding." The fact is, while using an LLM for certain tasks is helpful, trying to build out an entire, production-ready application just by prompts is a huge waste of time and is guaranteed to produce garbage code.

At some point, people like your coworker are going to have to look at the code and work on it, and if they don't know what they're doing, they'll fail.

I commend them for giving it a shot, but I also commend them for recognizing it wasn't working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think the term pretty accurately describes what is going on: they don't know how to code, but they do know what correct output for a given input looks like, so they iterate with the LLM until they get what they want. The coding here is based on vibes (does the output feel correct?) instead of logic.

I don't think there's any problem with the term, the problem is with what's going on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

That's fair. I guess what I hate is what the term represents, rather than the term itself.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

no shit. ai will hallucinate shit I’ll hit tab by accident and spend time undoing that or it’ll hijack tab on new lines inconsistently

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fun how the article concludes that AI tools are still good anyway, actually.

This AI hype is a sickness

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

LLMs are very good In the correct context, forcing people to use them for things they are already great at is not the correct context.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

Upper management said a while back we need to use copilot. So far just used Deepseek to fill out the stupid forms that management keep getting us to fill out

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