This is why copaganda is/was important. (The hundreds of cop/detective shows that almost always solve the case.)
this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2025
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In the 18th century, the Italian criminologist Cesare Beccaria devised the deterrence theory that criminal justice systems worldwide have depended on since. He cited three primary principles to deterrence: the severity of a punishment, the speed at which someone is captured and the certainty he or she will be found.
American policy often focuses on severity. In recent decades, lawmakers responded to spikes in crime by increasing the length of prison sentences. They paid less attention to the certainty and swiftness of punishment. Yet those two other factors may matter more to deterrence, some experts say.
America pays attention only to the severity of punishment. Certainty and swiftness of punishment is always just glossed over by the typical tough-on-crime types. And cops don't generally care if they get the right person either. They care about conviction rates, but accuracy never seems to come up at all. Nobody in power seems to care that when you convict the wrong person, not only are you doing a great injustice to that person, you are leaving the actual murderer out on the streets to kill again! What fraction of that 58% clearance rate were not actually the real murderer and had just been beaten or otherwise coerced into confessing? I wouldn't be surprised if that number dropped close to or even below 50% if that were to somehow be taken into account.
Hell, even when a person in the USA is shown to have been wrongfully convicted of a crime and imprisoned, the state will fight tooth and nail to keep them in prison, particularly if it's an election year.
A city guy told me about this. The bodies often are found but not enough resources go into finding the perpetual.
The fucking pigs are too busy harassing the general populace and being bigoted assholes.
Bet if you subdivide the murder cases solved by victim's income level you'll find something way more interesting, NYT.
Victim race too.
Also if they were homeless or a sex worker.
"The murder clearance rates of other rich nations, including Australia, Britain and Germany, hover in the 70s, 80s and even 90s"
For comparison it says the clearance rate (solved or resulting in an arrest) in the US is 58%
That's insane.
I wonder how much of that difference can be attributed to gun violence. I'm not anti gun, but few countries have gun laws as lax as the US so there's a larger number committed by guns which may be more difficult to solve. The sale of guns themselves are not always tracked, and gun violence is something that can be done from afar and not leave as much evidence. We're also quite a large country with very populous cities. Berlin has 3.7 million people and is the most populous EU city. NYC has over twice that. Much easier to solve crime in a town of a few hundred people than in large cities, which the US has more of.
I would argue the size and population of the country don't help. Half the country is empty and a population of 300+ million doesn't help. Plus good ole fashioned police incompetence
That will embolden criminals about as much as the president publicly committing crimes on TV and getting away with it
"Maybe another billion dollars for police to jerk off in their cruisers and collect overtime at the expense of all other municipal budgets will help!" - Political discourse in this fucking country
Problem is that what we dont need is beat cops who go around harassing people because their skin is too dark. What we actually need is detectives capable of catching killers and fences, but the incentives are to go harass minorities
What's needed is a program that analyzes and pinpoints the conditions that create violent behavior and uproots them (for example, living in scarcity with no economic security and feeling marginalized, having no empathetic communal support system, etc.)
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probably about the gap is murders done by american police
You should buy more tanks for the police. Or fighter jets, you can bomb murderers from fighter jets, right?
Or just buy a bunch of D9s and demolish the lives of all the people you don't like like the IDF does.
How would they know how many murderers it is if they get away? What if its just one very very sneaky murderer??
No body no crime
I love that song
So Luigi should have used SO4?
Is incorrectly labeling someone as legally dead considered a crime? Like, equivalent to manslaughter or murder depending on intent?
"Her, those minorities ain't gonna oppress themselves."
-Cops
Don't tempt me, lol
Learning this statistic does not make murder more appealing. Guess I'm not a psycho. And thank god for that, you know? It seems like it would be such a hassle.
Not defending America in any way but these stats can be manipulated just by not taking cases that seem unsolvable or refusing to call them murder.
You know you're right, it's probably even worse in America than the data shows.
Yes. That's correct and goes along with my point. These numbers represent very incomplete data no matter what country you look at.