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.ml world "news" continuing to be an excellent source of journalism and definitely NOT contributing to the spread of Putin talking points!/s (lemmy.world)

submitted 18 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This is the kind of content the .ml admins cultivate through their bans and censorship. They'll frequently remove articles from credible good sources that directly go against their narratives, while allowing misinformation and conspiracy websites to include RT, Sputnik and (as shown) random substack blogs as long as they tow the narratives that align with them.

E.g. Ukraine is a Nazi regime and Russia is just "liberating" the Ukrainian people

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

well just blacklist them, make it an echo chamber so it doesn't show literally anywhere else in the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 24 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

This is why I don't donate to the devs because it indirectly goes to .ml. This is also why people think Lemmy is nothing but tankies because they're ok with that image.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

i’m so glad piefed is picking up steam! once voyager support is good i’m done with lemmy and donating to piefed

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I recommended to people to go to Lemmy, and then I got told "you mean the place where it is full of tankies?" Tankies give the entire community a bad name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

interestingly, a healthy portion of thethreadiverse is quite anti-tankie precisely because of these instances.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago

This is also why people think Lemmy is nothing but tankies because they're ok with that image.

Which is why I advocate for pushing large instances, like .world, to defederate as they have for the other 2 instances in the Triad

We can't force .ml offline and we can't force them to install an actually unbiased and fair admin team.

But we can control our association with them, if the rest of the network defeds from them at the very least we can all say "yea they're there, but we've cut ourselves off from them because they're nuts" and I think that could go very far

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Oh damn, they're not even pretending to not being a Russian mouthpiece anymore?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

They straight up tell to the face of the victims of communist genocide and mass murders that "its your fault your country was completely inhibited by nothing but literal SS nazis and honestly that also makes you a nazi"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

I don't remember a time where they attempted to pretend. It's just recently they started getting heavy with the site wide bans though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

.ml is great if you need to borrow some crayons. But that's pretty much all they're good for.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

i’d prefer to borrow crayons without having to dig them out of peoples noses tyvm

[–] [email protected] 44 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They're still pushing the "Ukraine are Nazis, here's zero proof!" narrative?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is all just what I remember from research years ago, but at one point there was a pretty large chunk of nazis/sympathizers in azov specifically. They cracked down on extremism since then, but it's conceivable there's a few left.

Now using that to call every single Ukrainian servicemember and child a nazi to justify actual imperialism? Average braindead tankie take.

[–] bobby 17 points 13 hours ago

They cracked down on extremism since then, but it’s conceivable there’s a few left.

Also the most extreme ones are the ones that died first and after broad mobilization the relative proportion shrank naturally. That's just maths.

And even if these two were not the case, Ukraine has a simple explanation:

When asked about one of the two Russian groups fighting on Ukraine's side, one being extreme racists who want to make Russia smaller to get rid of regions with non-Russian ethnicities, a government official, maybe even Zelensky personally, said to the press that Ukraine does not have the luxury to pick who fights on their side when the alternative is rape and genocide.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 15 hours ago

Mmm yes, must be a very reasonable author that goes by the name "AVATAR OF VENGEANCE" on the internet

[–] [email protected] 42 points 18 hours ago (34 children)

The story at present has 9 upvotes, 12 downvotes. The OP posted:

If any salty Nazi cheerleaders want to complain that this isn’t a news source, you’re wrong. This is an active military correspondent’s blog giving a timeline for events which are not debatable. Better luck next time.

… which has 4 upvotes and 1 downvote.

I would bet money that one or two of the upvotes on it are from the .ml moderation/admin team.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

dessalines upvoted it

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 16 hours ago

I just encountered the OP of that post today, saying EU is not real. You just can't with these people.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 17 hours ago

Damn they are still shilling that 3 years into this war.

Jfc... They need to call their handlers and get updated talking point

This is pathetic level propaganda

[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago

This is why I've blocked every major .ml instance that pops up on my feed.

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