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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/46890078

cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/216477

ICE said the Canadian was found unresponsive Monday at the Federal Detention Center in Miami and was attended to by medical staff, but was pronounced dead the same day.


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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago

Again, the same passive voice. The word they should use is Killed.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 hours ago

“At no time during detention is a detained illegal alien denied emergent care.”

I guess that doesn't go for legal residents, like this guy was.

[–] [email protected] 173 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

If Iran was holding a US citizen against their will and let them die in custody, we would drop a nuke on them.

I hope Canada takes the opportunity to punish us hard for this shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Unless they are a Democrat

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I dunno about a nuke. Maybe a stern glance in the direction of Iran. I know it's not quite the same since Saudi Arabia is our frienemy after 9/11, but this US administration's support is probably more based on skin color than anything.

Jamal Khashoggi

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

A tactical nuke on a certain house with white paint? You know the one 😏

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 hours ago (15 children)

Iran has not confirmed that they have him in detention and this was a spy. They literally caught a US spy. Do you know what we do to people we catch spying in the US?

This is quite literally not the same thing. The US has accidentally killed a Canadian tourist. If a part of Iran's government killed a US citizen we'd use that to launch War today.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not the same thing, but he was a permanent resident for over thirty years

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

~~That's an interesting part of the story but in this case this Canadian tourist hadn't live in the country at all. I feel like the speed at which he entered the US and then died indicates a problem with us custody and handling.

Like I feel like it's more egregious if you lived in the country for 30 years and then you know were prosecuted as a spy but to just die from being detained is total bullshit~~

Misread something not valid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What case are you talking about? The article in this post is about a Canadian permanent resident of the US.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Sorry I read something else and got confused I'll go correct the information later.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I get it dude, but the US citizen in Iran was a CIA agent fucking with the country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I wasn't really making any kind of judgement about it. I just read your comment and thought "I'm pretty sure that's already happened" so I looked it up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago

It sorta depends on what kind of US citizen they are. As one example, US-Israeli citizens are precious innocents who must be protected at all costs, but US-Palestinian citizens are fine as collateral.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

No way, we haven’t given much of a fuck about this sort of thing for decades now

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Canada now gets to pick one of ours. Fair is fair.

Any one. Anyone at all. Just pick >_>

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago

Are politicians on the menu?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

That's a difficult choice. So many good candidates. But we're still nicer than that, for now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Only one?

/joke

[–] [email protected] 49 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

wonder how next snowbird migration is going to play out

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

My parents used to go down to Arizona. They sold their trailer back in 2018 (so just before Covid which was very lucky). They've done the odd trip down to the US (they sold because they wanted to go to different places) but plan to go out to Vancouver Island and other places more often now.

Family friends with a house in Palm Desert sold their place after Trump joked about Canada being the 51st state and plan to never go back down again. At least for as long as he is president.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It's already not good this year. My dad owns a condo in Florida and said a lot of the Canadians sold their condos in his complex. They just didn't want to deal with the extra immigration paperwork this administration added.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 hours ago

But especially the paperwork in the gulags.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

This comment pisses me off so much.

Are you serious? Paperwork? That's what your dad thinks Canadians are concerned about?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They have a second condo in Florida they're well off and mostly-white

They have that "won't happen to me" attitude.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

Hmm, they sound nice.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Probably since I'm assuming most of them are white.

Old white people basically never think they're going to be the target for government discrimination.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

Yes, because that's what they have said they are concerned about. Why doubt what they say?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 hours ago

Cool, we’re starting to murder our neighbors. How great for us. Super swell.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago

ooooooh, careful guys. that border has lawyers. you were only supposed to cause wrongful deaths on the other one

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Follow the money. I guarantee a private company was involved and they probably do some kind of business in Canada. Make sure they're completely booted from the Canadian market.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Make sure to sanction their employees and their employees families too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I would say don't visit the USA, but he was a citizen. Crazy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not a citizen, but he should have been. If a legal resident has been in the US for ten years, the government should either have to grant them citizenship or explain why they don't qualify and deport them. This guy was selling drugs, yeah, but he was also probably paying taxes. That's the whole point of the system as it is, exploiting immigrants for illegal labor and then blaming them when they get caught. This guy should have gotten a trial, probably some prison time, and enough rehabilitation to reenter free society.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Reading the article became a permanent citizen way back when I believe that means he file it all the correct paperwork

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Permanent resident, not a citizen. He wasn’t eligible to vote, do jury duty, ~~or be drafted~~, but after all that time, those are basically the only differences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Btw, Permanent Residents can be drafted, FYI.

Male Green card holders have to register for the Selective Service at age 18, or immediately upon entering if already 18, unless they arrive after their 27th birthday

They love to give you responsibilities, but not the rights

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh that’s some bullshit. I honestly just assumed that wasn’t a thing because obviously that’s not a reasonable thing to expect from residents.

Edit: the tiniest reassurance: it doesn’t apply to student visas

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