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Tim Kaine Moves to Force War Powers Vote to Prevent Trump From Attacking Iran
(www.commondreams.org)
Trump needs war to stay in power
this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2025
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Trump needs war to use power at home.
Bush all over again.
Even Bush looks competent compared to the orange clown. This sucks.
To be fair, Bush had Cheney, who was a pure evil zombie bastard....still wasn't Steven Miller
get ready for the "oppose bombing iran = you hate freedom and are literally a traitor" narrative from the GOP
Yeah I’m beginning to smell Iraq level bullshit.
If this happens, it is going to be plain as day compared to Iraq. Bush 43 had some benefit of the doubt thanks to 9/11 and getting respected leaders who were seen as nonpartisan (Powell) to sell it.
Of course. I just don’t think the administration cares about optics.
My stepmother on father's day: "I absolutely love what Israel is doing because the US didn't have the balls to.
They're going to be fully behind going to war...
🤮 🤮 🤮
yep. hoodwinked by a conman into thinking it's a great idea to send troops off to die in rich peoples war
But just think of all the oil we'll get. We'll have ... like ... free gas forever!
— some Bro-caster in the near future
People are going to be Freedom Jogging or whatever freedom fries esque bullshit they cook up like last time.
International relations noob here. I get why we want to do this, and sure, do it, but it feels like the real plan is to just keep funding Israel while they do a little ethnic cleansing both countries' leadership wants.
There's no "ethnic cleansing" happening in Iran, there are targeted strikes on military, economic, and government sites. No invasion, no boots on the ground, and a relatively low amount of casualties in comparison to the number of strikes carried out so far.
The ethnic cleansing is happening in Gaza and West Bank,, also known as "land Israel feels it should control". Israel has no interest in controlling Iran, they just want a government there that isn't an existential threat to Israel. No reason to commit genocide and depopulate land you have no interest in controlling.
Israel is a US interest because they are an easier target than the US in a region that tends to prefer terrorist actions.
I mean maybe partially but that's not the intent.
We've basically used places like Israel to avoid legal shit we don't wanna do ourselves. Go spy on the middle east and act as a police force so we don't have to. Now Mossad is one of the most effective information controllers in the world because that's what the West wanted of them.
They're basically a guard dog for the oil fields and have started really pulling the lead now that the US is so weak(Trump)
Good. I really hope this passes, but if it doesn't, some people will be on record supporting yet another pointless war in the middle-east.
Oh NO! This is Atrocious and AGAINST our Strategy of doing LITERALLY EVERYTHING TRUMP WANTS!
-Chuck Schummer and the DNC!
Hey, he's also pushing for Trump to hit Iran
My car comes with a break pedal and a prevent pedal. Right after a long prevent I like to take a little break.
Mangolini asked Netanyahu not to do this, but he went ahead and did it anyway, banking on it putting the US in a position to be forced to get involved in this war. Mangolini is conflicted because he wants to get the approval of all the dictators, especially when they treat him badly (just like his daddy). But plenty of GOP/MAGA are against getting into wars so Mangolini doesn't want to anger them. It's a divisive issue for the GOP and maga base because it's support Israel vs wait but not go to war for them.
My guess is it should have enough GOP support to pass in the Senate (I know Rand Paul and at least a couple other repubs would support it, but other than Paul who is willing to defy trump, do the others have the guts to vote for it if Boss says no?). As for the House magats I assume they'll just vote however Daddy tells them to. I'd think he would like to have an excuse like this for not joining netanyahu's war.
I think you might be underestimating the number of democrats that are also war hawks who want to bomb Iran.
I bought Raytheon and Lockheed stock this morning
You m#*"$#red how many did you say? Wow!
You don't have to censor yourself. Call him a bloody handed loser.
I'm a loser for dropping $20 on a gag for a little light in the dark?
For directly and unapologetically funding the death and destruction of human lives?
Yes. Yes you are.
Well, that's just like, your opinion man. If you think my $20 is going to make a difference you aren't a mathematician.
It's objectively not an opinion, where the fuck do you think that money goes?
And sure, $20 here doesn't matter. When a million other people also invest $20 "as a gag" or more trying to make a profit, whoops, that's $20 million plus worth of death. They don't make anything else. Only death.
I think you're a little too wrapped up in this and concerned about what a stranger on the internet finds funny.
So please explain then? I'd love to know why a stranger on the internet thinks that financially contributing to industrialized murder is funny. Please do elaborate.
I think the fucking nuance of it has already gone over your head bud
So you have no answer then, cool, thought so.
I could be. I was mostly thinking about what the GOP would do, but I expect most Dems will support it, since they passed pretty much the same bill in 2020.
Too late
Too late?
Watch twenty Democrats just straight up vote to declare a war instead.
Too late. They already started a war.
I’ve seen these come up every few years, and not just about Iran. Don’t seem to do much
It's all just symbolic, from a symbolic play-pretend opposition party. War will happen. Republicans will force it on us, maybe even a declared war for the first time since World War II.