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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

New Zealand halts $16.9m (AUD) in funding to former colony Cook Islands after it signs an minearals, investment and trade deal with China worth $4m over five years.

Kia ore-a bruv

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-19/new-zealand-halts-funding-cook-islands-deepening-china-ties/105435744

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

update on the iran internet situation: it's basically already disconnected from the rest of the world. in the morning it's better and im able to (with some really specific configuration) connect, but otherwise after 6 pm it's dead.

on one hand in a statement they said that the disruptions are not because of cutting off the rest of the world but are due to israeli cyber attacks (which are not unfounded) but on the other hand many data centers became "iran access" (they can only access iranian ip ranges), as well as the normal restrictions they imposed right after the start of the war.

so if you guys aren't getting any footage to doompost over it's because the internet is broken. you can check it with netblocks to see when the internet is cut off.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

If you have any family or friends near Arak please tell them to stay inside with the windows and doors closed if possible, Israel just bombed the above ground nuclear facilities there. They were suspected of being inactive, but still there's always the possibility of radioactivity/radiation leaking into the surrounding area.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 hours ago

Do (some) Government offices have internet?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

CNN twists themselves into pretzels to avoid the words “Iran successfully strikes Israel”

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What an absurd way to phrase this. This makes it sound like the search and rescue teams are out there looking for the projectiles Iran misplaced.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 hours ago

CNN frequently has typos, grammatical errors, and outright missing paragraphs from their updates. By far the lowest editorial standards of all the MSM slop sites

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 hours ago

they make it sound like the search and rescue teams are recovering the fallen projectile debris

[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

Iran just launched the largest ballistic missile attack of the past few days on Israel this morning, over 30 ballistic missiles launched. Multiple impacts/direct hits in Tel Aviv (3) and Be'er Sheva (1), including on Soroka hospital.

Lots of interceptors, likely David's Sling, were launched over Tel Aviv

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I guess Zionists will suddenly care about blowing up hospitals now

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago

There were tunnels under the hospital

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That hospital was an IDF base

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There was a calendar showing names of militants there!

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Attacks on hospitals are never okay, though I suspect it wasn't the target here. Since Iran seems to be going tit for tat, and the relative inaccuracy of the missiles, the university right next door could have been what they were going for. At least in my armchair opinion.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The entity has a command post under a hospital that they have been posting about online for the past few days, I don't remember if its this hospital, but they are using them as military sites.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 hours ago

It's really always fucking projection with them

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Israel already bombed an Iranian hospital a couple days ago. I don't support targeting civilians, but that's tit-for-tat.

Realistically it's Israel's fault for breaking the seal on such war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

And that's not even tit-for-tat. Iranians aren't using hospitals as bases. Israelis are.

Israelis are just hitting hospitals and schools because responding to even the slightest insult with horrific war crimes is their entire doctrine.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Settlers aren't civilians. "Israelis" are all part of an occupying force

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Don't forget that there are some Israelis who are native to the region, and some who refuse to serve in the IDF.

But, per Israel's own logic that they apply to Palestinians, former soldiers are considered valid military targets for life. And that's most(?) Israelis, due to conscription.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I agree that "Israel" has no right to complain. I just don't think Iran intentionally stoops this low. Of two possible targets in range, a university and a hospital, I think they would have preferred hitting the university 20m away.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

IOF have been operating out of hospitals. They made it a legit target.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I've seen them use (stolen) homes, schools and civilian bomb shelters, so I don't doubt it. You got some references for me that I can throw at people?

Edit: Found something, though not the name of the hospital https://www.instagram.com/p/DK4lcVyNsAg/?img_index=3 Edit2: That specifically Rambam hospital in Haifa, not the one targeted. Though this could very well be standard practice. Just to be clear, this IS directly under a "Israel" hospital. Here is a video bragging about it from 9month ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR503uPSrls

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago

Iran just said the target was was an IOF site next to the hospital, zionists blend military targets into civilian infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Think it's just Iranian deterrence doctrine in action. Israel just bombed the Arak heavy water nuclear reactor/facility in Iran two hours ago (suspected of being inactive, but still), so Iran responds by launching as many ballistic missiles as it can at population centres. This has always been Iranian deterrence doctrine, if Israel bombs our nuclear facilities they'll pay a high price/we'll bomb Tel Aviv and other population centres to inflict maximum damage. Israel will likely respond by bombing some more oil or energy infrastructure.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (8 children)

BREAKING: SpaceX Starship explodes during static fire test (BNOnews)

https://bsky.app/profile/bnonews.com/post/3lrwnpsmyys22

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

There would be a year long congressional investigation if NASA has this many explosions in such a short time.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

Get your ass to Mars. zzztrr Get your ass to Mars. zzztrr Get your ass to Mars. zzztrr Get your ass to Mars. zzztrr Get...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 hours ago

@[email protected] what kind of interceptor is this

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 hours ago

Breaking news kelly

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I was prepared to laugh but I wasn't expecting such a comically large explosion, holy shit lmao

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago

Fr. That looked like a fucking Werner Herzog flick.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago

Starship is a huge vehicle. It holds a lot of methane fuel and oxygen. Artist's impression size comparison with the space shuttle. The Starship/Super Heavy stack is the biggest rocket ever to fly, even bigger than the Saturn V that launched the moon landing missions.

All of the major Starship/Super Heavy R&D problems in the past few years seem related to a big redesign of Starship. V1 was the original test design and it worked pretty good as a testbed for the flight systems, but it was too heavy to be used as a production design. Starship V2 was intended to reduce the ship's mass to improve cargo capacity, but it's been unreliable even beyond the normal unreliability of prototypes. I'd bet that we don't see another Starship test flight until a Starship V3 redesign.

Some people have tried to pin the Starship issues on the Raptor V3 engines, but the Super Heavy booster uses literally the exact same engines from the same production line, and Super Heavy has proven to be very reliable. They've even successfully done that crazy "catch the booster in midair back at the launch mount" manoeuvre a few times.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

if trump decides to go for it, we're gonna end up with a nazbol Tucker Carlson campaign in 2028 that unites all the worst libs and chuds

I keep seeing clips of him roasting Ted Cruz with a bevy of comments on each one from libs saying "I can't believe I'm agreeing with Tucker now"

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