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I noticed this for a longer time but I just thought MSN flooded the web with its shit. It didn't came to my mind it is actually duckduckgo trying to shove these msn links into my face...

I guess this is similar to google amp links, just stealing the content of other websites.

It annoys me big time, -msn doesn't seem to help

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[–] [email protected] 194 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Duck Duck Go uses Bing so that tracks.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This is the answer. Might be a (new?) part of their agreement

I still like DDG and recommend it. But I also recently switched to Kagi, a paid search engine, and have been quite happy.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Kagi seems kind of expensive. $5 a month is pretty high compared to the costs of other subscriptions and that doesn't even get you unlimited searches. I am definitely interested in this idea but I can't see the value being there at the prices offered.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Search something on duckduckgo and then refresh, it will list a different order of results. Very annoying if you check multiple links to not know which ones were in what order.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I'm fairly sure So you can't just game the SEO to always be on top. This way you get more varied spurces for your search. Since people will almost always click the top or second top link.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

DDG has been hot garbage for a while since Bing jacked up their prices.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

i've been using Qwant when i search news

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Its like Google's amp links, it is for for the ad tracking purposes

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago

DDG uses Bing. What did you expect?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is weird. The links all show other news agencies, and you see the same at the top of the page when you follow the links. Is MSN re-hosting the stories from all these agencies or are the agencies opting in for this?

Nothing like seeing an Associated Press link and having it open on msn.com!! 🤡

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

It's a syndication partnership with MSN. Publishers provide their articles to MSN via RSS. It's increasingly difficult to draw traffic to independent sites, so publishers are all seeking to diversify their traffic sources.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

here when i search for something or someone 'newsworthy' i get links to other sites ahead of msn, those links do go to the expected sites, and the favicons (that are all msn in the posted image) are also correct. in fact, only one first page out of the five searches i tried even had an msn link at all--at #9.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

Aren't they sourcing the search results from Bing?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Not saying this doesn’t suck, but it is also a soft paywall dodge for sites like WaPo.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

DDG is going to shit anyway. Feels like bing 2.0 at this point. The results aren’t what they used to be. I’ve been getting better results from my searxng instance or using like startpage.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Seconded! And unlike DDG (based in the US), Qwant is in the EU

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I searched "Trump" and switched to the news tab on DDG and get a variety of sources.

MSN isn't even in the top 20 for me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I remember when they switched map links to (ew) Apple Maps. That was a huge downer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely! Especially because the map is always broken on my phone, I want to move the area and end up somewhere hundreds of kilometers away. I guess it's time for a new search engine...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Duckduckgo is absolute shit. I'm tired of seeing blogspam AI shit. I'm tired of searching for things like "Trump tariffs 2017" and seeing 50,000 articles about what Trump said yesterday. Search engines are shit. It hurts I had to use Google AI for info on "articulation in architecture" because everything else was useless.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Switch to Kagi. It's worth the money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Seconded. The only reason I use Google is if I actually want an ad served to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you really want your porn search results linked to your credit card + name? oO

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, the ad services plugged into every website have already cross referenced each other and know who you are even if you use a service like DDG that supposedly doesn't track. Incidentally, Kagi supposedly doesn't track either, (which they'd better not since you're paying them), so while it doesn't mitigate the above issue of your being traceable by pure virtue of browsing the web, it certainly isn't "tying your porn results to credit cards and search results."

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Try searxng

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Duck Duck Go was never really good at showing results in my experience. Currently using Ecosia and switching between the Googl and Bing index. I hope they get their own index soon

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How are you guys getting all the hits from MSN exclusively? I've tried insistently and I get an assortment of El Confidencial, CNN, Sky News and then maybe some MSN. Heck, I'm getting Yahoo before MSN.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It seems to depend on the country, if I set US or Germany I get the MSN results, if I set Spain I set none...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

so I get results from all the major news outlets but many have bing icons on them lolwtf

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

As others say, it’s Microsoft AMP. There’s normally a box with an arrow next to the logo at the top that will take you to the original article. I don’t think there are enough ddg/msn users to create an ampsplosion equivalent extension, but it could be done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

In eastern US, first time using DDG on this device, it shows normal links (searched "Ukraine drone attack")

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure why you're getting those. None of mine are msn icons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

DDG has been shit since 2022

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok what the fuck is happening with DuckDuckGo?

I've been using it since the beginning of last year, because fuck google, and it's been steadily degrading in usefulness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago
  1. Looks like there various news agencies and there was a bug dieting the msn icon. The publisher names are all different.
  2. WaPo, "metaphor"? No child, try again.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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