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Instead of just importing a show and subbing or dubbing it, we should have random American companies buying the licenses to like 5 random seasons from 5 random animes, cutting them into pieces and Frankensteining them into one show with a new dubbed narrative that has nothing to do with the original source material, all with the sole purpose of selling old Japanese toys to American kids

Instead of Naruto and One Piece we could have Pirate Ninja Battleforce where Naruto and Luffy are brothers named Chuck and Bronson. Every once in a while there's a fight scene from Neon Genesis Evangelion spliced in

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

subs bottom-speak vs dubs top-use-words

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This really happened? That's so weird...

In Portugal they they did air the whole Dragon Ball series (og, Z and GT) but with the dub being very far from the original. Essencially the Voice Actors kinda improvised along the way and filled it with Portuguese references. It ended up becoming a hit with young and old stopping what they were doing when a new episode aired in the afternoons. Still remember sitting in the school cafeteria with teachers, cleaners and kitchen staff all watching Frieza scream at goku like a little removed (they dubbed him with a super high pitch voice). Good times...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is this why every country that speaks Portuguese is very obsessed with DBZ, including adults?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Probably (☞゚ヮ゚)☞

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Luffy defeats Big Mom by having a beyblade battle.

I'll be honest I prefer subs but that's mainly because the dub actors are usually bad (the cheapest they could pay to do a dub for english). When they actually get real high quality actors for things dubs can be extremely good, for example I prefer the dub to Howl's Moving Castle over the sub purely because it has an all A-List actor cast, Christian Bale as Howl is great and Jean Simmons as Sophie absolutely nails it, Billy Crystal is Calcifer, Laurel Bacall as the witch of the wastes, it's a really top cast lol..

There's a reason that domestically they use their famous voice actors as a selling point for shows compared to when we get ported dubs with some dubbing company doing it with their regular cast who dub hundreds of shows on the cheap.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IIRC, Disney was the United States licensee for Ghibli films for a long time, so they brought in the A team whenever they did the importing/dubbing. Patrick Stewart is in Nausicaa as Lord Yupa, for example.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's the right way to do it. Criticise them for all sorts of stuff but there's a lot of examples like that showing they're not just churning absolute shit out for maximum profit.

There's so many things that you could give an A-list team to that would completely change the dub. It's almost like talking about 2 completely different things when you talk about "dubbed anime" and then talk about situations like this where they went beyond that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Akira was dubbed twice, so it's not implausible to get a new cast for an old classic. There's hope!

EDIT: Cowboy Bebob's dub was amazing by accident. I think you'll appreciate this video about dubs in general and the Cowboy Bebop story.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I hope they never redub ghost stories. Even with its horribly dated "jokes". It's a cultural time capsule.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I rationalize enjoying the more problematic jokes in Ghost Stories as indicating how nasty the characters are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I hope they never redub ghost stories.

Who would get such an idea, Ararararararagi-kun? (sorry, I shuddered...)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

It's still for Maximum Profit, it's just Disney have a time horizon of 50 years instead of 5.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Uphold Big Green DBZ dub thought.

"The Saiya Peoples"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fun fact Toriyama didn't confirm they're supposed to be called Saiyans (like the English translation of Saiya-jin) until very recently with Dragonball Super.

He should have also come out and said Vegeta's name is Bejita just to poke all the internet arguments going back to like 1995

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

One of the things that made me realize that intellectual property laws are bullshit was the Kafkaesque legal battle over the rights for the original SDF: Macross between the company that made Robotech and the original Japanese studio. Kotaku has a pretty decent primer here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Subs are superior because when I was 10 years old buying bootleg VHS tapes of Urusei Yatsura I thought I was cool because the ugly yellow subtitles had swear words pineapple-cool

The world lost something when you could no longer go on obscure forums to buy shady VHS anime that was probably translated wrong

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

Instead of Naruto and One Piece we could have Pirate Ninja Battleforce where Naruto and Luffy are brothers named Chuck and Bronson. Every once in a while there's a fight scene from Neon Genesis Evangelion spliced in

That's just describing an average Gintama bit. https://youtu.be/f__w6TnMOzM?si=K-T6KgR8SMqyBRN0

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

The only dubs you should be watching are right here huey-lewis

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly the superior option is neither. Just power through in ignorance. I watched the new Takeshi's Castle like that and now I can't go back.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean the game show? Is the new series any good?

They showed the UK Craig Charles-narrated and heavily edited version of the old Takeshi's Castle on a local channel here like 15 years ago

Some of the jokes were, uhh... a bit of their time. The phrase "Slappy Happy *appy Chappy" is burned into my brain

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

It's definitely got a bigger budget now. The actual courses look much nicer. The studio segments are all on a green screen, though, and that doesn't look as good. Also Takeshi himself isn't really in it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Planet Arus sure does look like Earth but it's totally not!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Star Blazers, Battle of the Planets. I had a Battle of the Planets lunchbox.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Laughs in 80s Voltron sicko-pig

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Samurai Pizzacats did this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i did recently see some robotech tapes that were like 2$, but i don't have a way to watch them so i guess i'll never know how bad it is

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The first part is mostly just SDF Macross with terrible songs (seriously listen to this shit). Never seen the stuff adapted from Southern Cross or Mospeda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

fond memories of the mospeada part but I rewatched part of it like five years ago and holy shit is the animation garbage. lots of slow pans on static shots

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I remember reading the Robotech books

Helluva time to be alive. Did get me into Macross Plus which is still good last I checked. I also got a bootleg of "Do You Remember Love" which story wise is kinda junky but the animation is gorgeous.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's what I was thinking of.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Robotechs existence is actually great because getting vintage Macross models costs tons while you can fine the same exact ones but Battletech on ebay for like 1/5th the price.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Some of the early 1980s Transformers toys were just Macross toys, Skyfire/Jetfire specifically comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Instead of Naruto and One Piece we could have Pirate Ninja Battleforce where Naruto and Luffy are brothers named Chuck and Bronson. Every once in a while there's a fight scene from Neon Genesis Evangelion spliced in

You joke but that sounds awesome

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltron

The original television series aired in syndication from September 10, 1984, to November 18, 1985. The first season of Voltron, featuring the "Lion Force Voltron", was adapted from the series Beast King GoLion. The second season, featuring the "Vehicle Team Voltron", was adapted from the unrelated series Armored Fleet Dairugger XV.

Kinda.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

The only show I know like that off the top of my head was Power Rangers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Most people don't know that the Generation 1 Transformers toyline was really like four or five different Japanese toylines smushed together. Some of the toys were licensed from mecha animes like Macross, and that's why the characters never appeared on the cartoon, because Takara, who made the toys, didn't want to promote characters who were part of other companies' toylines in Japan.