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[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 weeks ago (27 children)

using AI to create these images is really gonna help with the hole in the floor

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no way I will find it but I could swear I've seen that image before the AI hype.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

it must be there for a reason

This is why I can't take "The purpose of a system is what it does" seriously

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, maybe it was this one.

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[–] orbituary 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We're losing this battle so quickly. It's unreal to me how fucked we are.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

First time? If there's one thing I've learned, it's that normies don't give a fuck and just want their simple distractions, regardless of what the greater cost to society is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Like sweeping the tide with a broom

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

In what way won't it help? Be specific.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Training large models like an LLM (text generation) or a stable diffusion model (image generation) consumes a lot of energy and using these models isn't cheap either. It's bad for the climate in the same way cryptocurrency is.

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[–] lugal 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

AI is quite energy intensive

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

How energy intensive?
Like, compared to random cat videos on youtube n all?

And would the addition of renewable energy be able to handle it?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Using it, not all that energy intensive (one llm use is roughly the same as 3 pre-ai-bullshit google searches iirc). Training it, very energy intensive.

Yes it would but we haven't even replaced all our previous needs with renewables so it aint helping.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Using it, not all that energy intensive

According to this article, this is not considered true anymore:

As conversations with experts and AI companies made clear, inference, not training, represents an increasing majority of AI’s energy demands and will continue to do so in the near future. It’s now estimated that 80–90% of computing power for AI is used for inference.

I think there's a reason why OpenAI, Microsoft, Google and Facebook hold the energy consumption and water usage numbers so close to their chest.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Oh damn. Very good article btw.

According to numbers floating around online, thiat would mean one llama query is around as expensive as 10 google searches. And it's likely that those costs will increase further.

It still seems like the biggest factor here is the scale of adaptation. Unfortunately the total energy costs of AI might even scale exponentially since the more complex the queries get, the better the responses will likely be. And that will further drive adaptation.

This pace is so clearly unsustainable it's horrifying, and while it was obvious to some degree, it seems it's worse than I thought.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

You make this point like there’s any other option.

I would love to not have to vote for a Democrat.

But I have to, because we are all doomed.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

There are other options. Join a socialist org and organize/eductate within your workplace and community.

You don't have to vote for a Democrat.

People have been voting Democrats the whole time on our path to where we are, it didn't stop us from being doomed. We had 2 Obama terms right before Trump 1, then we had a Biden term between Trump 1 and 2 and it stopped/fixed nothing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

You can join Leftist parties and try to build up alternatives that can avoid doom, you don't have to side against the people trying to save us all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

The reason there isn't any other option is because nobody puts in the effort to add other options.

There's a Simpsons meme currently in Active on 196 rn from 1994 pointing out how ineffective both parties are. People have had longer than I have been alive to work on a third way.

America isn't collapsing now all of a sudden. People have been passively watching it die for decades.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Better to jump into shark infested waters than to try and patch a sinking ship

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

Except no one on that boat is doing that

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Better to organize and join revolutionary parties that stand a chance to actually not sink, when neither the Democrats nor Republicans can patch the hole (move beyond Capitalism and into Socialism, that is). The hole is Capitalism, it cannot be fixed by parties who are bought by Capitalists to serve their interests.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Except the point of the cartoon is that they don't want to patch that sinking ship.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Are you saying that you should vote blue as a form of harm reduction, or are you being sarcastic?

Btw, either way it's kind of an American centric perspective. Here in the UK, the red party is the harm reduction party.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, Tories are like vampires and always come back somehow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As a vampire, please don't compare us to those fucking monsters. It's extremely insensitive. Most of us are, in fact, antifascist, probably from the turnings of dying allied soldiers during the war....

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