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Sharing information on social media is common for many people nowadays, but it's not always without consequence. In some cases, simple 'likes' can be used as evidence in court, as a Florida man recently discovered. His Star Wars and Minion 'likes' were presented as evidence to support allegations he may be a prolific BitTorrent pirate.

You should assume that dbzer0 will eventually get a legal request to turn over records.

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[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] jatone 109 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Id upboat this but that might be used as evidence of libel.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You commented which is worse. It's futile to hide, the popo is on their way.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Preemptively denying dismissal of their future case, trial will continue when the request for dismissal arises.

[–] Viking_Hippie 10 points 1 month ago

To quote the great Suzy Eddie Izzard: I was dead at the time!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Stop right there criminal scum!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just another day in Florida.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 month ago

That judge can fuck off ⬆️

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't imagine the shame I'd feel if there was a legal finding stating that I was a fan of the minions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

"It was for my kids, I swear!!"

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Florida Man" - checks out.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Florida Man < Florida Judge < Florida Politician

[–] OwOhollyShiitake 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm going to jail then lol

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't jail you, they take every penny you've ever had or will have for the rest of your life.

It's only fair, you becoming destitute for liking a post is far better than the risk that they didn't get their $24.95 from you. /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Might be worth paying for a VPN to avoid this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Vpn is a bare minimum, got to threat your ISP as threat actor from the start.

ZK services is the future

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should assume that dbzer0 will eventually get a legal request to turn over records.

What request? The record are public.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ip addresses of individual users aren't public and are collected by their home server.

[–] MysticMushroom1776 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Here's mine, (right now anyway, doesn't stay the same for long) 185.220.101.21, come show up to... some datacenter in Germany...

Also I'm not sure if dbzer0 saves those persistently or clears them out often. If they do clear them then it probably doesn't matter much.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What if we "comply" and give them their damn records if they come demanding them.

Gigabytes of data that is just red herrings and stuff that doesn't lead anywhere but still has to be checked. And in formatted in such way it has to be done manually and can't be automated without even bigger effort and cost. If you give it to ai it will just start spouting nonesense or preferrably accusing obviously wrong people. It is likely not possible to make something like that, but it would be great if it was.

[–] lka1988 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's not very difficult to parse through database data for specific usernames and comments/upvotes related to that.

A determined judge would just make you pay for the time it takes to do so.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And that's why I love Linux isos!

That shit is 🔥

[–] thann 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I download "Big buck bunny" every year

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I wonder how many people actually watched that short movie in full

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yea, half the guys in CECOT in El Salvador are torrenters, didn't you know?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Some of them are also undergoing DHMO deprivation.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Turn over records? Is this not all public already?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

IP addresses are generally not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It is. In the fediverse everything is open otherwise federation wouldn't work.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You should assume that dbzer0 will eventually get a legal request to turn over records.

I assume then that dbzer0 USA owned/operated?

[–] Redjard 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The admin team is distributed and the infra is in europe iirc.
So no

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder, what happens if one places a server in international waters? What jurisdiction if any does apply?

I mean, it would be thematic to be able to place pirate stuff on the literally high seas, ya kno?

[–] Redjard 3 points 1 month ago

Most attacks on servers are on the connections. All IPs are owned by entities part of countries, so your IP is always under someones jurisdiction. The same is true for regulsr DNS entries, so the domain of that server.

For getting the data however, there also isn't any protection in international waters. Someone would just raid you and you could do nothing about it. What good is lawlessness if you don't have the ability to enforce your own "laws" about not having your data taken away?

You could lay low so noone bothers with that, but then you could also just lay low with regular secretive hosting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Good* to know, that's a relief!

[–] lka1988 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

sh.itjust.works is Canadian, just FYI. You may already know that, but for those who don't....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lka1988 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nice. I've got a SJW account as well, but that's for more political and social stuff. My db0 account is more focused on the tech side of things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I do identify strongly with dbzero, but I had made an assumption based on the .com domain that's proven false now. Didn't look that hard while signing up tbf. It'll probably be my backup instance should mine go bad somehow. Meantime mine is also piracy friendly and my community can be a coal mine canary, but I was told Fedecan policy changes nothing in this regard so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Most TLDs basically mean nothing because there's nobody who enforces what they mean. .tv domains, for example, is the TLD for the country Tuvalu, but I dare you to find me a website for the Tuvalu people ending in it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

The same idiot judge who still uses a Nokia flip phone?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

sharing your high seas with Cuckbook

lmao never

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

We all know where the real injustices are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No because I guarantee the consequences for those people are going to be way worse MPA.