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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Four stories from the COVID supply crunch stood out to me:

  1. Factories building and garages maintaining 18-wheelers had to shut down because they couldn't source some small metal part that came from China domestically. It was just like a particular kind of ball-bearing.

  2. A factory that made doors had to shut down because it couldn't source its inputs domestically

  3. Municipal utility companies warned that they had no supplies to respond to infrastructure damage because they couldn't source them domestically

  4. Nurses were wearing trash bags while people paid $100 for homemade ineffective hand sanitiser on ebay because the basic supplies required to respond to the pandemic at any level couldn't be sourced domestically.

Big fuck around energy.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yeah, a lot of industries that the USA needs is basically overseas at this point.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It'd be a shame if this trade war escalated to make consumer goods unavailable/more expensive during what will probably be the hottest summer in human history and an election year where the majority of Americans hate their unhinged genocidal president who's gaslighting them about the ersatz economy.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Even if it's not a recession, it's basically "hard economic times" masqueraded as a "booming" economy... which is a term that means nothing at this point.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let them eat bigscreen televisions.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

If he announced he was intentionally trying to lose I'd have to admit he has an incredible understanding of how material conditions impact voting.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

50% on solar panels? Holy shit that's actually fucking insane, China makes 80% of all panels. They're nuking any hope of a green transition

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So much for the Green New Deal...

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

THIS. IS. AN. INVESTMENT. IN. DEMOCRACY.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is what I've been saying, possibly the worst consequence of the US policy of continuing the cold war is that it's antithetical to cooperation around climate change. Any delay in a renewable energy transition costs untold lives and quality of living standards. How are you supposed to install enough solar panels in time to make a difference, if you're trying to start a war with the country that produces the solar panels? It doesn't make sense unless we admit to the reality that capital will have its agenda fulfilled no matter what's superficially going on in the elections.. unless we do the needful

capabara-tank

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You got a link to the original cus I'm about to abuse the shit out of this.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't get the basics. He thinks his tariffs are being paid by China. Any freshman econ student could tell you they're being paid by Americans

he-admit-it

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I'm sure that voters will be ecstatic to hear that Biden is tackling the bread and butter issues like "everything isn't expensive enough".

Does he really think that the people he's trying to win over care more about sticking it to China politically at the expense of renewable energy than being able to afford basic goods? All those people have already been screaming at progressives that everything's their fault for 8 months.

So much for that infantesimal amount of inflation reduction they were trying to campaign on.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Just imagine how good the economy will look when EV sales sore 300% even though people are buying the same amount and I'm still eating ramen noodles and stale bread just to survive.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

No Green Leap Forward...

kitty-birthday-sad

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Does he really think that the people he's trying to win over care more about sticking it to China politically at the expense of renewable energy than being able to afford basic goods?

Hell I think that because the only options the democrats ever seem to have is to appeal to republicans instead of non-voter

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trade wars are good and easy to win trump-drenched

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Liberals get all bent out of shape when you say there's not any meaningful difference between them and Maga but have they ever considered not behaving exactly like them?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden is stealing Trumps' lunch money here.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I will laugh when libs come out majorly in favor of this move by Biden, but then as soon as Trump is president and talks about or does the same thing, they're suddenly going to be like ohnoes

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"well the best part about the free market is that if you don't like a company, then a better company will come along and give you a better service. you can buy what you want and vote with your wallet"

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm still buying a Chinese EV.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

I'll fucking do it again.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The adults the room(tm) used to say the free market would solve climate change because eventually green energy would become cheaper and then it would be widely adopted. Now the price has fallen and they're slapping tariffs

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surely this is going to be followed by the largest attempt at reindustrialization in US history right? anakin-padme-2

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I literally thought about this earlier today while on the bus, "What happens to the USA if they tariff all of Chinese goods, or China does it to them? Where will they get their treats from?" Well, looks like China needn't apply their own taxes and tariffs, cause dear old Joe is doing a capable job himself.

Certified :sit-back-and-enjoy: moment

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

If you actually cared to compete with China you would join the technology arms race by investing heavily into it instead of banning superior competitors. If state intervention does positively affect technological progress instead of just pure competition, then neoliberal ideology is wrong and should be abandoned.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

They had a 2 decade head start on China to have a green industrial revolution but China managed to have their actual industrial revolution and now also a green one in the time we went from electing a president that thinks windmills cause cancer to electing that same guy president again.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

there are some wonderfully salty threads on /r/neoliberal about this

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What the fuck did they expect?

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Full Tweet if you're too lazy to click the title lol (it's fine):


I just imposed a series of tariffs on goods made in China:

25% on steel and aluminum,

50% on semiconductors,

100% on EVs,

And 50% on solar panels.

China is determined to dominate these industries.

I'm determined to ensure America leads the world in them.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kneecapping the most viable tech for a carbon-free future to own the commies

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... Ok then where the FUCK are the solar panels, Joe?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Guess we're not coming anywhere close to carbon reduction goals this-is-fine

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

But Trump would make us miss them by more! planet-hillary

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm sure that'll help reduce inflation 🙄

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Born to lose

Election is a fuck

252,534,748,452 dead Palestinians

biden-alert

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

make the price of stuff go up

make green energy more expensive and less accessible

for the grand benefit of uhhh... sticking it to the reds?

this is why I can't take people seriously when they scream about how badly we need to get Biden elected to stop Trump. Because Biden seems to be doing everything in his power to lose 2024

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Such an L even from a neoliberal point of view. The US is an advanced manufacturer, those are our inputs. Nations that are dominated by resource extraction get into a rut because they fundamentally can't match the productivity of economies that are creating the final end goods, because that's where most of the profit comes from. The sellers of inputs can only ever match the profit rate of the final good it's used for. The US is obviously not going to have a resurgence of production of steel, aluminum, solar panels, and semiconductors, so this is just going to end up tanking every sector that uses them. It's just the worst of the nudge-based economic brainworms taken to it's logical extreme.

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