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The US freaked out after the USSR gave Cuba money AND installed missiles there. It sure must be the money that freaked the US out, it can't possibly be the missiles pointed directly at he US, that wouldn't make any sense.
/s just in case.
Russia indeed should not.
The Soviets were installing long range nuclear missiles. The US won't even give long range conventional weapons.
Given that Russia violated the Budapest Memorandum, Ukraine is free to acquire/develop nuclear weapons.
But all that is besides the point that you claimed the US would freak out if Soviets gave Cuba money. But Soviets continued giving money until the Soviet Union dissolved. Even under Reagan, there was no freak out.
I already quoted the $750 million in military every year.
About the Cuban missile crisis: I don't beleive the US had the right to respond the way they did considering the nukes in Turkey.
We were however talking about aid to Ukraine.
I thought that you believed the response from the US was caused by the economic aid the Soviet Union send to Cuba. I was mocking that idea.
Let's stick to the topic.
Russia has a 'history'* of invading their neighbours and keeping them under their thumb. This is still continuing to this day with the most obvious example being Ukraine. Eastern Europe knows this and sought NATO protections. Ukraine didn't and look at what situation they're in now.
I want to ask you what your solution would be, and how the west should act in your eyes in order to adequately protect themselves from Russia. And how Ukraine should defend themselves.
*in quotation marks 'cause they're still doing it.
Listen, I know the US has done plenty of shitty things and I am not trying to defend it. What I am saying is that their aid to Ukraine is entirely justified, because it helps Ukraine regain their soveieignty back from the aggressor.
Can you please be a little more presize with NATO antagonizing Russia, what should they have done differently?
And lastly: since you haven't answered this question I am going to ask it again: What should Ukraine do, in your eyes, to protect themselves from Russia?
I asked HOW Ukraine should defend themselves. Since you were opposed to aid being send to Ukraine and Ukraine using conscription. Since that is pretty limiting to what Ukraine can do I figure that's a fair question.
You also seem to be against US involvement by virtue of it being a US involvement, even though this time, the US actually helps a country degend itself from an agressor. What is wrong with that?
If I read this correctly, you are both against NATO taking in countries to the east, but in favor of NATO taking in Russia, how is that supposed to even make sense?
lol
What are 'people like me' in your mind?
How many t-shirts do you own that say "WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!"?
Sounds like more than 3. Do you make them yourself with a sharpie or buy from infowars?
More ad hominem really. Sounds like you don't really know your fallacies.
How can I learn without a guide like you?
Teach me about whatever you're babbling about here.
Please recommend some books or podcasts. Which neighbor?
I'm super curious about "people that say the Ukraine war was “Unprovoked”, the lockdowns worked, and Trump is orange hitler."
Shouldn't the truth speak for itself? Seems like you lack faith in your own answers if you need to screen people who ask questions.
Except you're already wasting your time with me. So I can only assume your refusal to engage my questions is due to fear and ignorance.
I just asked for book\podcast recommendations. I guess you don't even have that.
Peterson is milquetoast. Everyone's heard his stuff. Where do I get the deep fried truth sauce?
Yeah that's because it's a martial art... I guess you're not familiar with how athletics work but you can't physically hurt yourself with philosophy so you actually can read ahead if you want.
I thought you were all the way down the rabbit hole- Peterson is the best you've got?
I was just reading Leviticus the other day. I hope you're leaving your fields unplanted every 7 years...
So Peterson, then the Bible, then I'll be as informed as you?
What's the most profound thing you learned from Peterson and\or the bible?
Do you know what blasphemy means?
So you're okay with maybe blaspheming? I care because it's funny and I like to laugh.
This gives of iamverysmart vibes.
Yeah, because back then the US gave long range missiles to Italy and Turkey. The Cuban Missiles were a response to the US's aggression.