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We can't do both, choose one
A) Have a massive global population of 8 billion plus
B) Have meat is a common food
False dichotomy.
There's a number of other alternatives:
reduction in global population has already been mentioned, but there's also technology change (industrialised farming has kept us well ahead of the "we can't feed that many people" curve for a century);
and technology advances in what we eat (lab grown meat etc);
there are also unexploited sources of protein such as insects.
Just because we can figure out clever ways to feed huge numbers doesn't mean the planet's other systems can handle it. It doesn't mean we can thrive.
And uh, insects? no It's not our responsibility to live ever more densely and efficiently to maximize human numbers. It's the psychopathic hoarders and their favorite tool capitalism that is the driver for our population explosion, more people means more to produce for them.
what are pros of +8 billion humans?
Edit: let's also say, >three billions humans
None, at least nothing worth the damage caused and what has to be given up to make it sustainable. It's not our duty to maximize human numbers.
I think we need to shrink down to sustainable numbers, if we don't do it wisely and compassionately via degrowth, it will happen with fascism or nature will take care of it.
oh for a moment I thought there was an upside. completely agree.
meat isn't the issue, it's humans in numbers >3 billions.