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None, at least nothing worth the damage caused and what has to be given up to make it sustainable. It's not our duty to maximize human numbers.
I think we need to shrink down to sustainable numbers, if we don't do it wisely and compassionately via degrowth, it will happen with fascism or nature will take care of it.
oh for a moment I thought there was an upside. completely agree.
meat isn't the issue, it's humans in numbers >3 billions.