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If it was any other West Asian country doing this, the entire West would be denouncing them and taking action. But because its Israel doing it, this is fine.
Because there are consequences of you go against the grain. It's all about money...always. Palestinians have little to no money and influence.
It's sad that this type of comment can be and is often spun as "antisemitism"
Agreed. It's also frustrating that the labeling of anything anti-Zionist as anti-Semitism just gives actual anti-Semites the opportunity to claim their actual anti-Semitism is anything but.
I will never fault someone for standing up for their people. In fact, one has to admire the fact that this person put their money (and reputation) where their mouth is. We strongly disagree on the matter, but antisemitism has nothing to do with it.
A question, for me, is where is the same pressure from other players? Where are the mega rich Arabs and Muslims pulling their funding because somebody didn't put out a pro-Palestine message. Step up!
Can you share some of the reporting behind this use of 'reportedly'. I have never seen this reported before though I am admittedly not reading everything.
It's difficult to tell if you believe it or not because you've referenced it within a larger point about how much confusion there is, but it seems like you believe it enough to repeat it. If so, what about the article makes you believe it or not?
Thank for taking the time to write these thoughts. I found them very insightful and thought-provoking. I asked some pretty mundane questions and you have rewarded me with high effort responses a lot to think about.
I have no idea if this is true or not but it seems like a gross generalization.
Irrelevant. I'm talking about individuals not governments.
Could be true elsewhere but I don't think this is the case in Egypt at least.
the toxic sludge of racism + Islamophobia = support and empowerment for Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.
The other, possibly larger, part of it is the fear of being labeled antisemitic. Antisemitism is a huge problem all over the world but Jews aren't to blame for what's going on - Zionist are.
Yep. And yet Israel is giving the rest of the world more excuses for antisemitism. Who is even winning this "war," other than Bibi and his toadies?
No one. Jews everywhere will take a reputation hit from the public at large because Bibi pretends to speak for them.
I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. I worked at a Jewish family business. I have lots of Jewish friends. And I've yet to meet a Jew who likes the guy...even the ones who support an Israeli state.
Agreed. I'm Jewish and have never supported Israel, but my parents do and even they hate him.
I think I support the idea of Israel because they've historically been a target of genocide but I recognize that it's not my land being given away to make it. It's the perpetual expansion if Israel that bothers me.
Zionists originally wanted a homeland and they got it. Now, Zionists want an empire. I'm pretty sure Palestine won't exist after this conflict. You give a mouse a cookie...
Zionism is by definition a nationalist ideology.
You hadn’t realized this by now? that by Anti-Zionism they mean the destruction of the Israeli state?
I read there was a protest on London recently
Video of gaza-launched rocket misfiring and landing on hospital.
https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1714375668249620559
what beheaded babies?
Settlers made up a lie about Hamas beheading 40 babies and tricked Biden into saying he saw pictures.
It was later corrected: he didn't see any pictures because there are no pictures.
Thanks. I do know about it, but didn't know whether @sadreality was being sarcastic or serious. & was trying to find out.
Sarcastic
Thanks. Sorry for doubting you, There are so many kooks out here that its difficult to make out.
A fake story used as propaganda to manufacture consent for the genocide of Palestinians. Mainstream media and celebrities were repeating it blindly a week ago saying 40 beheaded babies were found
So what exactly would Israel gain by bombing a hospital?
Iran however would: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-preemptive-action-by-resistance-front-expected-coming-hours-2023-10-16/
Thanks. I do know about it, but didn't know whether @sadreality was being sarcastic or serious. & was trying to find out.
The entire issue here is that they aren't. They are openly committing war crimes in breach of international conventions and none of the self-appointed guardians of democracy in the West seem to be batting an eye.
Has anyone informed Israel of this?
Israel is decidedly not bound by international law, at least practically speaking. And the things they've done to Palestinians are way worse than most middle Eastern countries do to their people. Yeah, it's very much not complicated.