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There is a small but self-sustaining breeding population of cougars living in the Adirondacks and possibly most of upstate New York, but this will never be officially confirmed by the various government environmental agencies because then they would have to take real action to protect them. Cougars have everything they need there and there's really no reason to believe they're just walking 1800 miles and not breeding.
This is the case for a lot of other heavily forested places east of the Rockies as well.
is this a conspiracy??? Im from up there and everyone seems to just accept it there
I think it's more like they can't acknowledge it or people start frothing at the mouth and organizing hunting parties, sorta like how we decimated the wolf populations across the country
We don't really have that much livestock (the old joke is farming here is a great way to make a small fortune if you start with a big one) and it was mostly ranchers that wanted to kill wolves for having the audacity to kill cows the ranchers didn't want to spend money to fence in.
Just had this discussion around a campfire in the Adirondacks. Nearly everyone agreed Wolves and Mountain Lions are in upstate NY except for the one person who said, "Well the DEC hasn't said so, therefore they're actually Coyotes and Bobcats".
Even if it isn't full blown wolves we've got coydogs which are a mix of coyotes and wolves which are just bigger meaner coyotes
From the adirondacks, this is absolutely true. Every old timer that's spent decades in the woods has a cougar story.
I'm pretty sure I've seen one but it was dark so I can't be certain
oh hey, it's the Gippsland Panther but in America
Also the Tasmanian Tiger still exists, and proclaiming it extinct was actually the best way to protect it