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Bulletins and News Discussion from June 16th to June 22nd, 2025 - Iran, Harden Your Heart
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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.
Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.
Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).
Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.
I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.
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Israeli is giving off quite a few serious tells right now regarding Iran’s success thus far, and I think they are worth discussing.
We are hearing that Iran is firing a handful of missiles at a time now, 3-12ish range. Despite censorship efforts by Israel, we are still getting a slow drip of footage of these handfuls of Iranian missiles connecting with targets in Israel. From this, we can deduce that Iran is having a much higher success rate than earlier barrages, because it certainly doesn’t seem like we have seen that many fewer impacts comparatively.
Additionally, we’ve noticed fewer anti-missile defense munitions in footage of missile barrages. While some areas like Tel Aviv will still have a high ratio of anti-missile munitions to missiles in the air, we are seeing fewer around military installations and other places outside of Israel’s urban core. We are also seeing attempts to use cheaper intercept munitions on ballistic missiles, and have had footage of kinetic intercept munitions connecting with Iranian ballistic missiles and literally getting shot straight through while the missile continues on unaffected.
To me, this screams that Israel believes Iran is in this for the long haul, and that Israel is concerned about anti-missile munition stockpiles. On top of this, the media/internet censorship of Israel accompanied with banning citizens from leaving the country on flights is also telling that they are very afraid of creating a mass panic and exodus from the country. Personally, I believe that Israel and Iran have both identified Iran’s win condition: shatter the myth of Israeli superiority to their neighbors and scare enough people away that Israel begins becoming unsustainable.
Totally agree. Iran still getting massive hits, including taking out intelligence buildings (today) and the Haifa refinery with much lower missile barrages speaks to their confidence. Israel hasn't achieved anything of note since the weekend in Iran either, lots of bombings but nothing nearly as spectacular as their opening moves.
Think the four missiles that impacted near a Mossad building (out of 20 fired) only one hit within the Mossad compound, three outside of the compound, and all missed the main target, the Mossad building. Which is kind of the issue with the ballistic missiles from Iran, the accuracy is not there to hit a target like a single building.
The other smaller salvos had no reported impacts. So the minimum amount Iran needs to fire is 20 to actually impact, then it's about a 75% interception rate.
It's quite difficult to see exoatmospheric interceptions during the day because of the sun, and there were still a lot of David's Sling point interceptors fired at the strike on Mossad, visible here
Yeah it's a shame ballistics don't have the accuracy of air strikes, just goes to show that Iran needs to build up a real air force rather than fielding outdated American jets from the 70s.
I think Iran only has one ballistic missile with both the range to hit Israel and high accuracy, Qassem Basir, with dedicated electro optical terminal guidance. But it's a brand new missile, a modification of the Haj Qassem unveiled last month. So they don't have a lot of them, and while being a MaRV capable ballistic missile, it's not as survivable as the Fattah 1 or even the Kheibar Shekan series.
For MRBMs you need dedicated terminal guidance for high accuracy, the past year has showed that INS + GNSS is not enough.
Total collapse of the entity being on the cards is actually insane. Decades are happening!
It’s not in the cards yet, but it seems like Iran at least knows what card it should go for. Quality of life must continue to deteriorate, be demoralizing, and difficult.
I almost wonder if the missile self-targeting and misfires we saw have to do with the zionists having to use old munitions or poorly serviced launchers. I could be crazy but didn't those videos happen during the later barrages too?
Some are saying an Iranian hacking group was responsible for the misfire
No idea what to take away from this but there have been a few cases of interceptor launch failures before now, both in the Gaza envelope and in the North.
Either way, very bad design to have a big chunk of rocket fuel and explosives just turn sideways and strike the ground next to your expensive launcher filled with similarly explosive and expensive missiles.
Do we have any word on whether cruise missiles have been fired or are getting thru?
As of now none have been fired, but a new missile barrage is allegedly underway now, so I’ll update if we see cruise missiles.