misnina

I tried to start a kbin instance today and I literally ended up corrupting or deleting debian off the VPS.

So look I'm tryin' but uh...give me a little time.

Where are algorithms considered as being new and legally allowed derivative works in relation to visual works of art?

Translation: (1) Text and data mining is the automated analysis of one or more digital or digitized works in order to obtain information, in particular about patterns, trends and correlations.

(2) Reproduction of lawfully accessible works for text and data mining is permitted. The reproductions must be deleted when they are no longer required for text and data mining.

(3) Uses pursuant to subsection (2) sentence 1 shall only be permitted if the rights holder has not reserved them. A reservation of use for works accessible online is only effective if it is made in machine-readable form.

None of that says anything about creating profitable derivative work. In fact is specifies patterns, trends and correlations, which does not lead me to believe it is protecting visual works created from this data, those kind of things are only used to inform things, like information science.

Yeah, AI can totally exist and be useful, but currently it's in the hands of tech dudes and admins who have a terrible track record with developing things responsibly and over hyping and masking flaws. It's used to make a profit at the colossal detriment to humans. It's used to hurt us currently, not help at all.

I think the training data from reddit probably only used the API because it was easier and free. And if no longer free, there's nothing pointing to them actually paying for it. It's not like reddit is the only data, they very much likely already have web scrapers for other uses that they can just tune for reddit.

Could you please point me to legal definitions, in court or otherwise, that say it is not violating my copyright license to directly use my artwork in any shape or form for a non-fair use product? As in, a service you pay money for to create things based on the training data it has taken from me, is not fair use. Or point me to the legal definitions where I lose my copyright by posting things online? Allowing to scrape is not the same thing as giving derivative copyright license permissions. You aren't disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with my legal rights.

they are just watching and learning Why is it treated so differently

Because it isn't human. It isn't watching and learning, it is being fed my creative content as data that I have not allowed nor have been compensated for, which is then turned around and sold as a service. My work is being consumed for commercial uses by an inhuman who does not have fair use education rights, with the sole intent to create a profitable product, and I'm getting nothing. I have legal rights, no matter where I post my work, to retain my copyrights and I have the right to not consent to improper use of my works that do not align with the licenses I have chosen to give it. Websites ask for a licenses in their ToS to be able to even just display and share my artwork when I upload it. When I create an image, I am given ownership of it's copyright to control the use, distribution, and right to create derivatives. This isn't a fuzzy area, it's very clear. If an artist did not consent to their artwork being used as training data for a non-fair use reason, it is stealing their works.

And no, it's not fair use under education. Copyright exists for human protection and uses. It isn't being used for 'learning' it's used as data to be repackaged and sold. Google's use of it showing up in search is to link back to posts that contain my work, retain my copyright, and are not derivatives. If you mean by captchas, yeah capchas are pretty bullshit.

And circling back to my original post. So? AI companies aren't paying for their image training data, so why would they pay for reddit's api?

I mean AI is already stealing all art and images on the web without paying anything. They could just literally scrape and pay nothing. Web scraping isn't illegal, they already do it, why would they pay anyone? Unless the law catches up about the rights to manufacture AI content based on ill-gotten data, then why would they pay what they don't have to?

wahhh, I never got an alert for this!! Thank you so much!!

It's pretty damn new, but the only reason I keep popping back on reddit is to go to r/HyruleEngineering. The problem is that it relies on the easiness of reddit hosting the video for these short clips which lemmy currently couldn't handle. Though, people there are dedicated enough to their builds and information that they would probably be the ones who would make burner youtube accounts to upload things.

I know you mean satiric as satire but I sort of read it as "sarcastic" which fits with your reply, lol. A weasel that is ineffective on the internet, because satire is dead.

It would have no impact for me because why would I ask a computer for summarized answers and just accept it without looking at it myself? I already am perfectly fine navigating the internet and tailoring my media to my preferences.

I think you'll find the people coming to the fediverse to escape megacorporate control would not prefer it to be replaced by a questionable and new technology. Most I know are here because we want more control over our internet information, not to be simply replaced by something else filtering information for us. This is probably the reason you are getting downvotes. But also could be the unironical use of waifu.

It's probably the waifu.