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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

People need to realize you can use alternatives

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Problem is that a) new users don’t know that they can join communities across servers, and b) it is intuitive use start with the servers that a lot of people like.

Instance browsing and onboarding is probably the biggest challenge to Lemmy’s growth. The current experience either scares new people away, or encourages them to congregate on a limited set of instances.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If the registration process just picked a random instance for you, maybe something nearby, and assured new users that they can visit communities and interact with users across instances, very few would pick the biggest instance.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

That isn't guaranteed, though. The other day I wanted to create a new community and was browsing instances on join-lemmy.org/instances for an instance that was compatible rulewise. The one I picked evidently wasn't a good pick (burggit.moe). Trying to advertise my new community, I found out it was defederated from beehaw (and likely others) and got insulted as a pedophilia sympathizer ...

Randomly assigning new users to instances would make a substantial fraction of people very unhappy.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (17 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (16 children)

tbf people just wanna sign up and click on funny links, not browse through 100 rando instances to find the one that lines up with their exact interests and wait for approval and worry about uptime and whether their instance will still exist in a year

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I tried to make an account on lemmy.ml and it looks like their servers are (understandably) overloaded

I ended up choosing lemmy.world instead

My understanding is I'm not missing out on anything by chosing a less-popular instance. Did I get that right?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Oof, I can see why some of those instances are blocked, though. Since I'm on Beehaw, I checked their block list and...wow. Scrolled through each one for a few minutes and now I'm hoping I'm not on some kind FBI list for it. A few highlights from my research expedition:

  • A meme featuring various characters (MLP, Vaporeon, Peter Griffin, etc) unironically mourning Ted Kaczynski
  • NSFL gore
  • People calling for the execution of cops who stopped rioters on Jan 6
  • SO. MUCH. LOLICON.
  • "Hahaha look at this WOKE LIB 🤣🤣🤣"
  • QANON. QANON EVERYWHERE.

I was only on each one for a minute or so. I don't think I'm missing out on anything except maybe being put on some kind of list.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm very tempted to switch to another instance, but from what I understand, you can't migrate your account like you can with Mastodon? That seems like something that should be expected with fediverse apps...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think clarity on this or maybe a "roulette" of which instance on new user accounts would help. Most new users are Reddit refugees and just sign up to the mothership.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

A roulette would be nice, the system balances the load of each instance. The downside of this is that it will negate the theme or purpose of the instance since the assigning of the members would likely be randomized instead of joining by choice of instance values and purpose.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

The documentation explaining how fediverse works is so bad. It's so long and convoluted anyone new just can't be bothered reading it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

bro' i didn't even knew that there was a documentation

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Nah just register at whichever instance that sounds the coolest to append to your name. Just FYI I'm from programming.dev.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is something that lemmy devs need to better address. This is an "Eternal September" kind of situation. People (me included) are not used to the fediverse. They think you can participate only if you're in that instance. And people want content, so they think "why's the instance with most people? Ahh lemmy.ml? Cool, let's join.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Proud to be a sh.itjust.works user

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I chose lemmy.ml based on two things:

  • I wanted a server that wasn't likely to close I don't really know for sure, but I imagine it's easy to underestimate how much money or time is required to run a server. And I'd really prefer not having to worry about migrating. The 'run by Lemmy's developers' part makes me think that either the risk will be lower or the people running the server will know how to prevent reaching a point like that.
  • I didn't want to join a very specific instance As I see it, there are two possible scenarios:
    • The instance I join will affect the content I'm exposed (and not exposed) to, in which case I want to experience 'the whole internet' rather than a section of it.
    • The instance I choose is irrelevant to the content I get, in which case, (apart from community rules) it shouldn't really matter which one I choose, so I would just join the biggest instance.

Still something that could help with the choosing-an-instance process is to display in the list of servers the community rules and if they are blocking certain communities.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I'm on .world because I had no idea which to join. Seems to be working just fine for me; I can see tons of posts from other places!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Sopuli.xyz has been a reliable instance :)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Don't look at me I'm on feddit.de

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

feddit.nl here. Hi, neighbor.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Idk why anyone would use the main instance and choose to be admined by pro-CCP tankies

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (7 children)

IDK, beehaw.org and lemmy.world aren't doing too bad

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (19 children)

They need to do away with the ridiculous manual approval process on most servers and recommend servers that forego it on the main site.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (9 children)

"I just want to be where the people are" 🧜‍♀️

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

New feddit.de user reporting in

Ze Germans seem to have their own monopolistic instance

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I do really hope people are going to come to lemmy because this isn't half bad

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use lemmy.world. they have an associated mastodon as well.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I created my account at sh.itjust.works but I don't fully understand Lemmy yet. Finding communities seems confusing.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Ope! Us midwesterners are doing great.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find it is nice to just join a server you enjoy at its core and then simply use the "all" sort of thing. I can see from other servers what is popular and can comment and upvote and downvote. It's all very seamless even if I am not in that home server

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I don't think I spent more than 10 minutes total in /r/all in my 12 years of Reddit, so it's quite nice to browse all here and not be bombarded with rubbish.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well, hello from feddit.de! Since I'm a german user I thought it'd be only logical to register on a german instance. While new registrations are semi-locked, the criteria for being let in are quite easy to pass and they are mostly in place to filter out spam. Got my account approved right on the next day

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Yeah I have been finding it hard to wrap my head around this federation part.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

I just hope it lasts, worst thing would be if people just went back to reddit

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

proudly hailing from NOT lemmy.ml 🤗

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