impartial_fanboy

Not sure if you were planning on using it as such (or how much you care) but hot spring water can't be used for drinking water, at least not for any length of time.

Yeah sorry, my frustration isn't with you. I understand the intent of the campaign. I just fundamentally disagree that it accomplishes those goals, or maybe more specifically, the price they pay for those members is too high. Now obviously their membership isn't public and them growing is a good thing, but I would like to see those numbers in a year or two. Do the people who join because of the campaign stick around? Do they only work on the campaign? Does the campaign cause people to burn out? etc. etc.

They need to demonstrate competence to deserve the label 'vanguard' and using the same strategy as all the other third parties just doesn't cut it for me. But I wish them luck.

The two parties have established rules so stringent they're almost impossible to abide by and become an official party on the ballot.

So why choose the structurally most difficult path?

If you are that tuned into the PSL campaign, you've seen the instructions on how to show your support via the election process.

They will never win an election if that is the level of effort needed to get votes.

I'm not sure if it matters that their name didn't match on the ballot.

I literally can't even. Genuinely what is even the point? Are you trying to get people here to not like PSL? This is a total joke.

Look, I'm not trying to be mean but every thread that comes up about PSL's campaign here I just see this same fundamental unseriousness from people who champion them. It's frustrating seeing an obviously well funded ostensibly socialist party waste so much money on this nonsense.

But they don't even get the party name on most of the ballots, they run under different parties. Like California, where nearly half their votes came from they run on the Peace and Freedom Party ticket.

How does that promote PSL? Even just the bare minimum of name recognition, it seems like money poorly spent. Not to mention the reputation of being a 'third party' is ... not great and will cause most people to just dismiss them outright.

You want the membership to reflect the working class not political wonks who pay too much attention to electoral politics.

Certainly of Soviet style planned economies. Though just the existence of computers refutes a lot of his so called problems.

Theoretically literate right wingers don't go around proselytizing because that would go against their theory of power. You don't teach the peasants, you use them. I would argue that policy wise the popular 'theorists' are only now making in roads because no one reads anything anymore, left or right.

Well there's more to the right than just fascism. Catholic integralism is a hot topic right now. For a real head scratcher try George Fitzhugh. He was a pro slavery anti-capitalist who liked socialism because he thought it was the ultimate form of slavery.

Oh yeah don't get me started on the left's residual Christian thinking. The amount of barely veiled protestant thinking is too damn high. The obsession with splitting is a perfect example.

People here should read more right wing theory. I think its very easy to get the impression that the only right wingers that exist are Shapiro or Alex Jones types and so when people on the left encounter a right winger who isn't a total moron/grifter they can be overly impressed and more easily swayed by them.

Case in point being Aleksandr Dugin. While he's not as influential since the ACP was founded, I used to hear some his talking points on here a whole lot. He explicitly talks about using internet marxists as a 5th column to push right wing ideas. So inoculate yourselves.

like when people try to argue that the PRC's economy is currently socialist

The easiest counter to this is that the PRC itself does not consider its economy to be socialist.

People also seem to unfortunately like to come to a conclusion first, and then try to fit the facts to match that conclusion

Exhibit A: The whole "Western Marxist" debate. A whole lot of people will look for someone else to blame before they blame themselves or their group.

The solution is obvious. We must transition to HeptBear. Adding another vertex is the only way to grow the website. We must keep adding vertices until we approach infinite vertices at which point HexBear will become CircleBear, ~~enclosing~~ including everyone on Earth in it.

Of course this plan carries the risk that there will be a struggle session (perhaps several!) on whether to use Latin or Greek prefixes for Bear which will inevitably cause splits and a loss of vertices. However I think it is a risk worth taking.