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I still genuinely don’t understand how this is any different than basically any other ideological affiliation.

You don’t have to look too far, honestly. It’s advertising/marketing driven, most of the time. They have a brand and image to maintain, and anything that slightly deviates from it tends to get shut down really quickly. The extremists I was talking about are the ones driving that uproar you mentioned. Most people don’t give enough of a flying fuck to do anything about any of it past the Facebook argument they’ll get into anyway.

These changes do tend to be driven by younger generations, that’s just how it is... I remember Gen Xers complaining about us Millenials wanting to change the world and being very difficult to manage, when we were joining the workforce lol

I’m genuinely confused as to why one would need “wiggle room” for anything, who we need to “win over”, and what is that “side” you’re referring to.

Movements as large as feminism have plenty of internal disagreement. There’s no party line, no code of conduct, it’s a bunch of people fighting over similar principles. Do you agree with literally everything from every movement or political allegiance you associate with?

My point was pretty much that I don’t feel like semantics are really beholding anything. There’s just no end to following that logic. The other commenter accused me of being ashamed of defending men’s interests because of my position. Isn’t this literally being ashamed of calling myself feminist cause I disagree with the extremist minority? If you’re 95% of a feminist, you’re pretty much a feminist. There’s disagreement even internally to pretty much every movement out there. Not everyone agrees on everything.

It’s always advertisers getting frisky.

1984 supposes it’s coming from big government and social structures. Seems like a lot of people just aren’t watching what big corporations are doing cause it’s getting at least just as creepy…

Oh come on. Extremists gonna extreme. Some will try to make a bunch of words offensive, the others will keep fighting for their right to use these words. The vast majority of the rest of people will just keep living their lives and just use whatever’s the most appropriate word at a given time with the language evolving. It used not to be considered really offensive to insult people with gay slurs when I was in high school. Languages evolve with their times, and that’s perfectly fine.

Sadly those kids were turned into confused apologists before they could decide if they wanted to or not

This. Having worked on some in-house anti-cheat solutions myself, it absolutely is just offsetting the processing and security cost to the players. The attack vector of having such a rootkit running on so many devices is just not even close to be worth the trade off of catching marginally (if really measurably at all?) more cheaters.

On one hand, it kind of needs to happen. Our economy as a whole is overleveraged on housing. On the other hand… A large proportion of our MPs are either landlords or reported housing related income, too, so why would they want things to change?

I’m in the unfortunate situation that I can’t possibly wait it out, for accessibility reasons. I’m utterly pissed off at the idea that I’m probably throwing way my life savings at a card castle that’s waiting to crumble. It’s just completely fucked up.

I’m sorry, but I think it’s the other way around. As I mentioned in my previous comments, “men’s liberation” and “men’s rights” just both happen to be names referring to specific movements that both advocate for men’s interests, but largely disagree on the causes.

If you still genuinely think I’m somehow ashamed of advocating for men just cause I don’t agree with the ideas of the MRM in particular, this idea that feminism as a whole is somehow either obsoleted by the existence its extremist elements, rather than just being a parallel fight, then… what are we arguing over, exactly?

Re-read my last comment, follow the link, read some definitions. You either missed or skipped the point I made on my previous comment that we are not on a “men’s rights group”. You’re kind of illustrating my point for me here. Feel free to point out at the “insult” I made, I’ll gladly retract if there is genuinely one. I can’t find it.