diyrebel

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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by diyrebel to c/[email protected]
 

I bought a tube marked 26/27½″ for a tire marked “44-622 / 700×45C”. I have another bike w/a 26″ wheel. So despite struggling to trust a dual size tube to be good for either size, I thought it’ll be useful one way or another. But the immediate need is for the 700mm wheel (assuming the “700” means 700mm). That’s 27.56″, which is presumably the same as 27½″ in the world of “nominal” sizes.

The tube does not entirely pack into the tire and the innermost ring of the tube is exposed. Is that okay?

The previous tube was marked 28″. Not sure if that’s the correct size.

[–] diyrebel 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A better test may be to forcibly energize the relay so it closes.

By this, I assume you mean to hotwire the relay. How do I do that?

I was actually planning on that. But then when I saw that the thermostat was sending 20V to what seems to be ultimately the start winding pin, it triggered me to first start this thread.

I am confused because I would expect there to just be two wires going to the relay. I believe it’s the relay’s job to break that into 3 pins. The relay has a connection that clearly goes to the common pin, which is the load. There is also a connection marked “N” for neutral, which goes to the run pin. The voltage across those two pins (coming from the thermostat) is 230v. So far, that’s all expected.

But then there is a 3rd wire from the thermostat going to (what I think is) a line that ultimately leads to the start pin. There is 20V across that and the load. So how do I hotwire that? I would obviously connect the load to and the neutral wires to their respective inputs, but I don’t know if it’s safe to jump the neutral to that 3rd input (which I think is the start pin). There is like ~54 ohms between the start and run inputs on the PTC relay.

I suppose it would be safe to just connect 2 wires to the PTC relay and connect nothing to the start input, just to see what happens. But it expects /something/ on the 3rd connector so I don’t suppose it will start the fridge.

[–] diyrebel 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there a step-down transformer anywhere?

I doubt it.. unless that’s something we would expect to find in a fridge? I see no big coils. There are also no fans on this fridge. No start capacitor either. The YT videos I saw do not correspond well with this. There is no freezer→fridge damper either. There are coils in both.

The thermostat should be easy enough to test - you know where the supply is, and which wires energize this relay. Test voltage at the relay when the thermostat closes.

I cannot easily remove the thermostat.. hard-wired in, otherwise I would try putting it in a working freezer then check that it closes. But OTOH that test is perhaps not useful since the problem is not continuous running. The problem is not running at all.

I can’t access that wiringwork page, but I would expect current and voltage to both be zero when the thermostat is happy. In any case, I appreciate the feedback.

 

cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/26897688

Either the relay is broken or the thermostat. I know this because I could force the fridge to run by hotwiring 220V across the common and run pins then briefly jumping the start pin to the run pin (thus sending 220V through the start winding for a split second).

The thermostat assembly has too many wires to know what to measure resistance on. But I figure that the thermostat can be black-box tested simply by checking whether it sends 220v to the relay switch. There are THREE wires involved (in addition to ground). With the relay removed (thus compressor disconnected), I plugged the fridge into mains. Got these measurements:

common pin to run: 220v
common pin to start pin: 20v

I’m tempted to conclude that the start winding /can/ accept 220v (proven by hotwiring), but 20v is also sufficient to cause enough motor movement to get it started. Does that sound reasonable? Can I conclude that the thermostat works and the relay is toast?

It’s hard to be confident without a service manual, particularly when the relay¹ has continuity. The common pin goes through a cylinder marked “Klixon MRP342LZ-32Q1”, which as 0.5 Ω. The start and run pins go through what seems to be a ceramic disc having 45 Ω. Is that reasonable?

I am ½ tempted to attach the relay, bypass the thermostat, and wire the relay to mains with start-run jumped persistently. Is that crazy? I assume the relay would internally disconnect the start winding. The fridge has no fans AFAICT, so no need for anything else to have power in this test.

¹ The relay I have has part № “A 3B7 8100” printed on it, which I cannot find online. But it looks exactly like this one.

Update

I hot-wired the relay. It was non-trivial because the relay has /3/ inputs. After studying it closely, I realised that one of the inputs (apparently for the start winding) is phony. The spade connector that attaches to it ultimately goes nowhere. When connecting the remaining 2 pins to load and neutral for the house mains, the fridge started and ran just fine.

Thus I have to conclude that the thermostat went bad. And replacements are not sold. However, Amazon has what’s claimed to be a universal fridge thermostat. It’s cheap, but I boycott Amazon. I think I will wait until someone throws out their fridge. Perhaps I can just take any thermostat and make it work.

 

Either the relay is broken or the thermostat. I know this because I could force the fridge to run by hotwiring 220V across the common and run pins then briefly jumping the start pin to the run pin (thus sending 220V through the start winding for a split second).

The thermostat assembly has too many wires to know what to measure resistance on. But I figure that the thermostat can be black-box tested simply by checking whether it sends 220v to the relay switch. There are THREE wires involved (in addition to ground). With the relay removed (thus compressor disconnected), I plugged the fridge into mains. Got these measurements:

common pin to run: 220v
common pin to start pin: 20v

I’m tempted to conclude that the start winding /can/ accept 220v (proven by hotwiring), but 20v is also sufficient to cause enough motor movement to get it started. Does that sound reasonable? Can I conclude that the thermostat works and the relay is toast?

It’s hard to be confident without a service manual, particularly when the relay¹ has continuity. The common pin goes through a cylinder marked “Klixon MRP342LZ-32Q1”, which as 0.5 Ω. The start and run pins go through what seems to be a ceramic disc having 45 Ω. Is that reasonable?

I am ½ tempted to attach the relay, bypass the thermostat, and wire the relay to mains with start-run jumped persistently. Is that crazy? I assume the relay would internally disconnect the start winding. The fridge has no fans AFAICT, so no need for anything else to have power in this test.

¹ The relay I have has part № “A 3B7 8100” printed on it, which I cannot find online. But it looks exactly like this one.

Update

I hot-wired the relay. It was non-trivial because the relay has /3/ inputs. After studying it closely, I realised that one of the inputs (apparently for the start winding) is phony. The spade connector that attaches to it ultimately goes nowhere. When connecting the remaining 2 pins to load and neutral for the house mains, the fridge started and ran just fine.

Thus I have to conclude that the thermostat went bad. And replacements are not sold. However, Amazon has what’s claimed to be a universal fridge thermostat. It’s cheap, but I boycott Amazon. I think I will wait until someone throws out their fridge. Perhaps I can just take any thermostat and make it work.

[–] diyrebel 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think I’m done buying washing machines. I have been hand-washing my clothes for over a year now. If I buy a machine, I become part of the problem.. I become part of the financial support system for the scandals.

I can’t quite tell from what you describe if Samsung did something wrong. It seems reasonable to have a sensor. But if it’s too sensitive and gets false positives, then indeed that’s junk.

I think nothing is worse than what I experience with Beko: secret codes that force us to trash machines where all components work, but the manufacturer will not reveal the secret code that enables the machine to run. Nothing is more infuriating.

[–] diyrebel 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Controller boards tend to cost about as much as a complete working 2nd-hand machine.

I have not checked yet for the machine at hand, but my other Beko which is also trapped in an error state and the parts shops can no longer get the controller board. Beko themselves cannot get one either. And I must say, replacing hardware to change the state of software is not an acceptable solution for me.

A jumper, I can handle. But I need the information. In fact that’s all I need -- information. Which pins need a jumper?

 

This thread gives some history and pics. Someone found a closely matching service manual, which is here:

https://www.how-to-repair.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Beko-WMB61431B-Washing-Machine-User-Manual.pdf#page=72

That goes to the error codes, which implies that I was reading the error codes upside-down. I thought it was error code 9 but the machine apparently has error code 18. It means the “load is imbalanced”. How does it sense that? There is no load in it at all now . But it’s trapped in an error state that cannot be cleared.

Am I missing something? Because this is outrageous. AFAICT, all components work. But the control board thinks there is a fault. And there is no way to clear it and force it to run. Page 86 of the service manual says:

“Explain the customer the following unbalanced load preventive actions.”

IIUC, according to page 86, the previous user ran an unbalanced load many times in a row. They retried running an unbalanced load enough times that the machine entered a locked state to protect itself from damage. But this service manual does not give a way to reset the machine. Am I fucked?

It’s the same problem with my other Beko washing machine as well. Both my Beko washing machines are trapped in an error state that is unclearable. The secret info was not released for either machine.

[–] diyrebel 2 points 1 week ago

I appreciate the effort. That manual is for a model beginning with ZFC, and mine is simply Z… I tried anyway, despite generally refusing to deal with the manual cartels. I could not get past the reCAPTCHA forced by manualslib. But I doubt it would help anyway. What I need is a service manual containing the resistence measurements. User manuals never have that info. The slightly different manual that I have (ZD 19/4 D) does not have anything useful.

Regarding fixpart.co.uk, I just get 403 forbidden on that site.

I’m not sure to what degree it helps, but if your problem with acquiring a part is geographical in nature I’m in Ireland, and am happy to get and mail the part for you if it is available in either EU or the UK. Good luck and keep us posted!

I appreciate the generous offer! I’ll keep that in mind but I will first try to diagnose more precisely which part I need.. whether it is the relay or the thermostat. Then I will try to find it locally. If it’s the relay then I’m probably toast. But I might see if something universal can be rigged up.

[–] diyrebel 1 points 1 week ago

That would get costly over time. A new tube costs ~€3.50. A patch kit normally costs ~€2.50 and typically has a dozen patches. I got lucky and found a kit with like 40 or so large patches for about the same price. The patches could probably be cut in half. You can also carry a patch kit on long trips using less space than a spare tube.

[–] diyrebel 2 points 1 week ago

There’s some spike still in the tire (doubtful since it took 5 minutes to blow)

There never was a road puncture. Someone gave me this bike, so I don’t know the history. It came with a flat tire. When I removed it, the tube was twisted in 1 place. Right where it was twisted, there was a hole. I patched it. Then another blowout happened on the other side of that same originally twisted section. Then again. I have three patches on one segment covering nearly that whole diameter. That rubber is bad in that one spot, but that’s not where the current issue is. All those blowouts happened w/out riding. Often just hours after inflating.

Then the blowout I’m talking about happened on a good part of the tube, without puncture. It’s on the inside, but there is decent lining on the rim, thus not from a spoke. But because it’s on the inside, there is an air gap between the rim and the tube. Though I suppose the tube must be forced into the valley of the rim.

It’d be fair to say the whole tube should be tossed, as it could be quite old for all I know. But the patch seems like new.. like it’s in a good state. This is what surprised me.. that the patch itself failed.

[–] diyrebel 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don’t think the same failure will happen with rubber cement.

To be clear, I used the rubber cement that came with the patch kit. I have not tried using contact glue (which may¹ even be the same thing). But these tiny tubes that come with the patch kits are more costly per unit than contact glue. Now that I am almost out of rubber cement, I’m considering using contact glue for the next patches.

¹ I cross-posted to [email protected] in case a chemist has the answer.

 

I have two Beko washing machines, both of which are trapped in an error state despite all components functioning.

Protectionism puts service manuals out of reach. I happen to have two service manuals that were leaked to me (against Beko’s will). One of the most important pieces of information for repair is clearing the error state (thus the most important info to suppress if you want to prevent repair and force a new purchase).

  • machine 1 (WMD 2625t) service manual: “After entering the failure code observing mode, pressing and holding “Run/ Pause/Cancel” button for a short time will erase the error code from the memory.”
  • machine 2 (WMB 51420) service manual: “Even if a new program has been started, this error code in here will not be cleared; the last error code occurred will always be displayed here. … When a new program is started, the error on the machine is cleared and the error code is no more displayed when Speed and YF1 keys are pressed.”

The machine 2 guide is self contradictory. Can we escape the error state or not? I hold “start” while rotating from OFF to COTTON (the 1st program). It shows error code 18, which means “unbalanced load” (yet there is no load). The service manual implies that programs can run when it’s in an error state, which seems unlikely and bizarre. It refuses to run programs in my case. In any case, there are no functional instructions for clearing the error state in the service manual.

The machine 1 service guide lies. Pressing and holding “Run/Pause/Cancel” while the error code is indicated has no effect. It’s forever stuck on error code 101 (E5), which also seems unlikely because the drain pump is fine (tested by hot-wiring).

Is Beko diliberately concealing the real/effective way to escape error states perhaps on the basis that the service manuals get leaked? Is the secret verbally given to Beko repairers in training instead?

It’s also suspicious that many of the fault flow diagrams lead to “replace controller card”. I really doubt PCBs would go bad in so many situations. Seems like a combination of laziness on the repair procedure to maybe sell more PCBs, which seem to have a high markup and also have an artificially short supply to force whole machine replacement.

I’m mostly confident that I have the right manuals, but it’s a shitshow because for machine 1 (WMD 2625t) there is a RAR file for a hodgepodge of models in the same family. And the svc manual for machine 2 is actually for “B7S B7SLED xxxx d/d”, which is apparently the US version of the WMB 51420.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52150351

My bicycle was simply sitting at rest indoors when it exploded. A slit about ~6mm long was in the tube. I thought it might be too big to patch, but I happen to have some quit big patches to try. I cleaned the area w/denatured alcohol then roughened the surface w/the sanding tool. I covered the whole patch footprint area with rubber cement. Around 90 sec. later applied the patch and lightly clamped it down. About 5 min later: installed the tube and inflated to 4.5 bar.

Couple min later it exploded again. As the image shows, it blew exactly along the line of the original slit. AFAICT, I could not have applied this patch better. That is, the air went through the patch instead of around it.

Why did this happen? The patch is thicker and harder than the tube. So if the adhesive does its job well, then I would expect the patch to be stronger than the rest of the tube. The elasticity is lower in the patch, so I suppose that must be the problem.

So I have to wonder: would it be more or less effective to cut previously damaged spare tubes to use for patching, instead of a patch? I wonder if larger holes need patches with more elasticity.

Rubber cement vs. contact glue

Patch kits include a tiny tube of “rubber cement”. The instructions say to wait 3 min before applying the patch. That’s similar to contact glue instructions. The only difference is contact glue instructions direct us to glue BOTH surfaces then press them together a few min later, whereas the repair kits never say to put glue on the patch (why is that?).

Are the two glues chemically different? I ask because it may not make sense for me to buy another patch kit when I happen to have a very big tube of contact glue for shoe repair.

 

My bicycle was simply sitting at rest indoors when it exploded. A slit about ~6mm long was in the tube. I thought it might be too big to patch, but I happen to have some quit big patches to try. I cleaned the area w/denatured alcohol then roughened the surface w/the sanding tool. I covered the whole patch footprint area with rubber cement. Around 90 sec. later applied the patch and lightly clamped it down. About 5 min later: installed the tube and inflated to 4.5 bar.

Couple min later it exploded again. As the image shows, it blew exactly along the line of the original slit. AFAICT, I could not have applied this patch better. That is, the air went through the patch instead of around it.

Why did this happen? The patch is thicker and harder than the tube. So if the adhesive does its job well, then I would expect the patch to be stronger than the rest of the tube. The elasticity is lower in the patch, so I suppose that must be the problem.

So I have to wonder: would it be more or less effective to cut previously damaged spare tubes to use for patching, instead of a patch? I wonder if larger holes need patches with more elasticity.

Rubber cement vs. contact glue

Patch kits include a tiny tube of “rubber cement”. The instructions say to wait 3 min before applying the patch. That’s similar to contact glue instructions. The only difference is contact glue instructions direct us to glue BOTH surfaces then press them together a few min later, whereas the repair kits never say to put glue on the patch (why is that?).

Are the two glues chemically different? I ask because it may not make sense for me to buy another patch kit when I happen to have a very big tube of contact glue for shoe repair.

 

A washing machine manufacturer quoted €200 just to show up (like some plumbers do). The price is reduced to €120 if they fail to fix the machine. These rates are a bad deal either way, fleecing people whether they fix it or not, considering a working 2nd-hand machine is around €150. Clearly the manufacturers have deliberately priced themselves out of the service market to push new sales.

Third-party repair services are likely cheaper but they are still unlikely to show up for <~€25 and charge nothing in the event that they cannot fix the appliance. But what if I bring the machine to them? Does anyone know of an appliance repair shop that repairs appliances brought to them, of course at a more reasonable rate than a house call?

Or at least someone who does quite cheap house calls in situations where they fail to fix?

[–] diyrebel 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

oh wow! That looks close for sure. Great find.. I’m sure it will be useful. I’ll look at it more later today.

Thanks!

(update) By searching for B7S B7SLED, I found the same service manual with a filename the contained WMB 61431B. So it’s not exact. But it’s close enough to be useful. It’s perhaps showing the same error codes. Although the ultimate problem of resetting the error state is not well articulated in the WMB 61431B service manual so I am still looking for a more exact service manual. It’s really a long shot though because these service manuals are just templates of others anyway. I don’t expect to find what I need.

[–] diyrebel 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks!

Indeed I need the heavily protected service manual.. but nonetheless I’m still happy to have the correct user manual.

 

Fridge stopped running. Both freezer and fridge do not cool. The compressor is silent and cold. Light comes on when the door is opened, so power is getting to the light and thermostat assembly.

I found no service manual for any Zanussi fridges. There is a (apparently useless) user manual for model ZD 19/4. My model is Z 19/4 D, which archive.org does not have the manual for.

Anyway, I pulled off the relay switch and took these compressor measurements:

        ° common
start °   ° run

common-run:    14.3 Ω
common-start:  19.3 Ω
start-run:    ~33.3—34 Ω

Ytubers quote values of ¼ of what I am measuring. They are demonstrating on different models of course, never my model, but they speak as if their measurements are a norm. My start-run resistence is the sum of the other two measurements, which is the one characteristic that is claimed to be correct. But are my resistences all too high? I used 2 different DMMs to confirm.

I hot-wired the common and run terminals to the house mains. It made a hum sound. Then I jumped the start winding to the run winding and the motor started. From there, it runs fine. Sounds like normal and the external coils get hot, as expected. So I assume the compressor is good and the problem is either the relay switch OR the thermostat. How can I narrow that down?

The relay measured at ~45 Ω. One Ytuber says the relay should be 0—1 Ω, so I am tempted to conclude my relay is bad. But I also have little confidence in what Ytubers say on these measurements. I have not yet taken resistence measurements on the thermostat, but when I do I expect the same problem: not knowing if my reading is good. Because user manuals withold this info.

I thought perhaps the relay is cheap enough to experiment, particularly in my case because apparently there is no starter capacitor. It’s a quite simple design. The parts shops all say the relay is discontinued, except one, who says they can get ½ a relay (it’s missing a circular part that looks like it might be the part that switches off when hot -- not sure). They want €40 for ½ a relay. Fuck me. Not worth the risk. It might be the wrong half, or my problem might be the thermostat (which is also likely unavailable).

But I have to ask, isn’t it foolish that relays are not standardized? Or is there a chance that I can hack together another relay to work? Or do generic relays exist to save these big boxes from landfills?

I could rig up a switch and a pushbutton to turn on the fridge.. then off, periodically, but that manual effort will test my tolerance.

[–] diyrebel 2 points 2 weeks ago

I have done nothing so far. My current crankset has 3 sprockets. The middle sprocket is worn to the point where the chain slips, so to drag this out I just stay on the biggest sprocket. But that is probably going to start slipping this year in which case I will be forced to change it.

I found a flee market seller who sells just the right crank, with one sprocket riveted to it, for $€ 5. So it’s cheap enough that it may be my next move. It seems to have holes in it to add another sprocket to it.

But in any case, I will not throw away my dead crankset. I will keep it just incase I one day find compatible sprockets and then I will try grinding.

[–] diyrebel 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Is there any noise to speak of, like the door lock clicking?

No noise. It’s completely silent (which suggests it may be just trapped in a stored error state). So I disconnected the garden hose because if it does not even trigger the water inlet solenoids then it does not help to maintain water pressure for future tests.

User manual seems to be pretty readily available online,

I’ll have another look, but I generally ignore the dedicated third-party manual websites as they are just time-wasting Cloudflare-enshitified rabbit holes. If I am convinced a service manual is in one of those walled gardens, I might go through all the boot licking hoops and do a dance to get it.

In any case, I appreciate your feedback.

(edit) i was able to get a user manual for a WMB 51221s from storage.beko.co.uk. It’s just a user manual and for a different model, but it might help in some ways. I have heard that there are WMB 7 series, 8 series, 9 series, etc, which I am guessing is marked by the first digit in the model number. So perhaps the manual is at least close to another model in the same “5” series.

(edit2) ah, shit, now I recall from videos that there is a huge variation between WMB 5xxxx machines. Some have an LCD and some are just LEDs and knobs. I have no idea what models might be close to mine. There are many more manuals on archive.org than what is even known to Beko’s websites, but no model numbers are numarically close to 51420. Model wmb 51241 has an LCD.

 

I’m trying to fix a broken washing machine for which I do not know the history. It simply had a note on it: “filter needs cleaning”. The cap to access the filter was jammed by a maxi pad that got tangled with the cap arms, which I was able to clear by removing the drain pump.

So then I tried to run a program. All programs fail, even just the spin program. It pauses, then the end program light (“Einde-Fin”) LED blinks. The machine is undocumented (no user manual nor service manual), but often a soft-reset (of sorts) is a matter of holding down start/pause for 3 seconds, which I did. That gets it back into the initial power-on state, but from there every program I start goes to the fault state.

Various videos for repairing other Beko models show entry into diagnostic mode by holding the start button while turning the knob from OFF to COTTON (the first program). When I do that, it seems to give an error code (guessing!) This is in the top pic. Then after a few seconds, it goes what lower pic shows, but with the Fin LED blinking.

I am guessing that the ~3 second display is showing an error code and that it’s in binary. The top LED (1400) is lit as well as the 4th one down (a fill icon). Does that correspond to binary number 1001? Can I then assume it’s error code 9?

Can I then leap to the next assumption that error code 9 is a door latch problem? I get the impression that Beko error codes are relatively consistent across models, and one video for a different model indicates error code 9 is the door latch. Is there a way to test that without buying a door latch? I would be happy to hack it to get a false signal that the door is latched certainly just to test the machine but perhaps even on a permanent basis because no kids live here.

Seems unlikely that the machine would simultaneously have 2 problems. Whoever dumped the machine only knew of the filter problem. So I also wonder if error code 9 is really a drain fault and the machine is trapped permanently in that state as it waits for a secret sequence of steps to clear it (in which case I’m fucked because Beko will not disclose that info unless I take a hostage and even then it would have to be the CEO).

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by diyrebel to c/[email protected]
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/49609301

I’ve found that a crankset that comes with rivet-attached sprockets costs the same as cranksets with no sprockets. So we get ripped off either way. The all-in-one piece wastes a crankset everytime the sprocket wears out and probably overspends on sprockets. And the universal crank fleeces you up front by cheating you out of a set of sprockets.

The rivets on my crankset are 72mm apart. Is there any reason I shouldn’t ragefully take an angle grinder to them?

Will I merely have to find sprockets with aligned holes, or could I run into other compatibility issues like mismatched hole sizes or other mating problems?

The bcd cribsheet shows a standard “Shimano 2003 XTR MX960 4-arm middle” has the bolts 72.1mm apart. So it seems I could get lucky though it’s a bit scary that a specific year (2003) is mentioned.

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