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I’ve been using LaTeX to prepare legal documents in PDF format with a tree of PDF bookmarks like this:

  • list of facts
    -- exhibit A
    -- exhibit B
    -- exhibit C
    -- exhibit D
  • law
    -- national
    -- international

So if you click “exhibit C” in the sidebar of the PDF viewer, it jumps to that document which has “exhibit C” in the corner of the doc in a bubble, along with commentary like “redactions in Bob’s version but not Alice’s”. I have no idea to what extent courts and lawyers appreciate or oppose metadata like this.

Some recipients want to see a verbatim version of the document without my markups. I am tempted to use the \usepackage{attachfile} … \attachfile{exhibit_c.pdf} which puts a thumbtack on the page whereby someone can click it and extract the original version without markups. The problem is that this embeds another redundant copy of the document in the PDF so every document presented will have two copies and ultimately double the size of the PDF.

Is there a tool or method that would enable just one copy of every doc to be stored in the PDF and the commentary to be in an overlay layer that can be toggled for printing and also toggled for on-screen viewing?

PDF annotations kind of try to have that effect, but the PDF standard for annotations is a disaster. Most apps force their own way of rendering a PDF annotation, which is often implemented as a tiny yellow Post-It note and it ignores the author’s font. PDF annotations lack control and look like garbage in most PDF viewers and likely even worse when printed.

(update) This thread mentions several ways to write annotations on top of a document in LaTeX:

https://overflow.manganiello.tech/exchange/tex/questions/15314/how-can-i-superimpose-latex-tex-output-over-a-pdf-file

I’ve always used the overpic method. But the problem is no one talks about how to make the overlay content a separate layer that viewers can give different treatment to. When a viewer opens a PDF where overpic was used to apply markups to an original PDF, it’s all the same single layer to the viewer. E.g. I tell Okular not to print annotations, and yet it prints my overpic markups anyway.

The top response to this thread mentions the pdfcomment package. I’ve used it. It gives no way to put an object of your creation in the annotation layer. You can use a \pdffreetextcomment command but then you have extremely limited rudimentary control over the appearance.

ATM it’s not even clear if the PDF spec can accommodate an annotation layer that is not confined to a fixed set of spec-defined objects.

solution

The LaTeX package ocgx2 seems to solve the problem. It supports custom user-defined PDF layers than can be toggled in many viewers. This code adds an evidence label that can be toggled on and off:

\usepackage{ocgx2}
\usepackage{pdfpages}
\usepackage{hyperref}
…  
\pdfbookmark{Exibit A}{A}
\includepdf[pages=1-,picturecommand={%
  \put(500,800){\begin{ocg}{Evidence labels}{el}{on}
      \Large\rotatebox{-45}{\fbox{Exhibit~A}}
    \end{ocg}}
}]{evidence.pdf}
 

I figure the moment I turn on the heating the ultimate source for energy is Russia. So at that moment, I would be feeding the wrong side of Russia’s war.

Anyone else trying to see how long you can go without heat? I hang out in a room that has no external walls. I’m probably unavoidably leeching some heat off the neighbor’s wall.

I guess if it drops below 5°C indoors I will have to throw in the towel to prevent water pipes from freezing.

 

I heard Starbucks offers nitro coffee (which is supposedly a fizzy coffee with nitrogen). But apparently no Starbucks in Belgium offers it, according to staff at the central station store.

Anyone see it served anywhere?

 

I’ve always been skiddish with the idea of authorising a creditor to grab money out of my bank account, rather than me initiating the transmission. I like to be in control because creditors can be shitty.

But fun fact: it turns out the law entitles payers to claw back the money up to 8 weeks after it leaves the account. Eight weeks to change your mind. This is also written on the sample SEPA direct debit form referenced by the link. To have an 8 week entitlement to a “no questions asked” refund gives more control than initiating a payment on your side because if you send a payment, there is no refund option once it is sent.

Reading the law suggests the purpose of the SEPA direct debit is in fact to give consumers enough confidence to trust the mechanism.

 

There used to be a Triodos branch here:

50.83856°N, 4.35009°E

But it seems to be a travel agency now. triodos.be still exists but gives no address. This was the only bank that I considered ethical.

Perhaps a consequence of COVID19, customer service is trending toward enshitification across the finance (banking & insurance) and legal industries as it gets increasing rare that you can simply walk in the door and get service. There has been a gatekeeping uptick where you are asked if you have an appointment -- blocked from talking to someone without one.

A pension company lobby desk cop (gate keeper) said call to make an appointment. Then when you call the phone system is broken.

In another case I was forced to call, then they said over the phone “send an email”. Of course their shitty configuration uses Google, which is another barrier to entry.

In another case I entered a building and could speak to someone but only after filling out an application for a visitor badge. There was a little red fucking asterisk next to phone number and email -- required fields. So indeed, I could not simply talk to someone vis-à-vis without having an email and phone number and the will to share that info.

So we have to ask, why all the tight security? Is the customer service so poor that there is a notable risk of outraged customers doing something destructive?

We need a right to be offline in Belgium before the enshitification gets so thick we cannot function.

 

I found a list of mortgage lenders here:

https://hellosafe.be/pret-hypothecaire/taux#Notre_comparatif_des_meilleurs_taux_hypothecaires_en_Belgique

It’s hard to trust that as a complete list because it seems to be published by one of them (hello). There are only a few that I do not recognize as main street banks (but perhaps they still are nonetheless).

I’m not interested in main street banks. Too much baggage. Too many shenanigans like forcing you into “relationship banking”, where the bundle in a bunch of shit.. unwanted current and savings accounts and forced insurance provider. They get around the law by saying you have “choice” as they give a less favorable interest rate for not taking the bundle. Fuck all that.

Any suggestions on mortgage lenders who are well separated from banks?

 

RCS seems to be replacing email-SMS gateways. RCS is supposedly an open standard, but apparently if you do not have Android 8.1 or newer, you cannot use RCS to send an SMS in Belgium.

In principle, iiuc, you should be able to use a desktop app or browser to send an RCS msg. But for some reason it’s a shitshow.

 

Mobile carriers in many countries provide a free email→SMS gateway service, so if you have no SMS capability or credit, or you are outside the country you can still get an SMS to someone using just email.

I had a look at many SMS gateway lists¹, and Base/Telenet and Proximus are never mentioned. Orange has no Belgian gateways, just:

Doing an MX lookup on @sms.orange.nl gives nothing, so the service to Dutch subscribers has apparently been unplugged.

Orange claims to support RCS (Rich Communication Services) exclusively for Android 8.1+ devices. Yet wikipedia shows the Orange service to be discontinued… that it only lasted 2012-2019.

OTOH, an article (fr) claims all 3 carriers (Base, Orange, Proximus) deploy it around 2020.

English translation:

The three Belgian mobile operators officially have an RCS infrastructure. For Android smartphone users, this SMS 2.0 becomes an interesting alternative to private online messaging. The data will now be fully managed in Belgium.

Telenet today announces support by its BASE mobile subsidiary of the RCS, Rich Communication Services. Orange Belgium and Proximus preceded it successively in November 2019 and August 2020. Now, the three competitors have deployed the Belgian variant of this service largely pushed by Google. Indeed, the American giant, tired of waiting for the operators to get there, had announced a progressive and global deployment on the Android park. Good news therefore for BASE customers, using Google Messages, their data will no longer transit through Google but through Telenet’s infrastructure.

As a result, in Belgium, the RCS becomes a very interesting alternative to WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and others. If, and this is where the bait hurts, all the participants in the conversation exploit an Android smartphone. Under iPhone, your messages will be displayed as vulgar SMS. Note, for most Samsung, it will be necessary to download Google Messages which is usually not installed by default. On the Huawei side, if Google Play Services are absent, the service will not work.

Finally, Telenet draws its customers’ attention to pricing. Indeed, we must be careful with the international. Sending text messages abroad remains expensive. It is therefore valuable to check that the content is transiting through the RCS protocol.

Indeed that’s absolute fucking garbage that all parties to the conversation must have an Android -- in effect: SMS 2.0 is only for Google patrons. RCS is touted to be an open standard alternative to walled-gardens. But f-droid.org has no RCS app. Nor does Debian.

So, RCS can fuck off. Are there any old email gateways for Belgian GSM subscribers that are perhaps widely unknown?

Orange has this roughly explained service:

https://easymessaging.orange.be/

So you cannot simply send an email. You must register. And registration demands a mobile number (needed because the SMS callerID will be “spoofed” to your number). It does not state whether your own mobile number must be an Orange number. So it’s unclear if senders must be an Orange customer, and it’s also unclear if the recipient must be an Orange customer (though unlikely because you cannot know easily what carrier the recipient uses).

For me, it’s broken. I could not get past the verification step. If anyone else attempts it and succeeds or fails with that, feedback would be appreciated.

① Link farm of SMS gateway lists:
https://www.email-unlimited.com/stuff/send-email-to-phone.htm
https://when2work.com/help/emp/find-text-address/
https://gist.github.com/spangey/518e358959e545bf03fc
https://helpcenter.horizonwebref.com/en/articles/6221095-what-mobile-carriers-do-you-support-for-free-text-messaging
https://web.archive.org/web/20241213132316/https://www.lifewire.com/sms-gateway-from-email-to-sms-text-message-2495456
https://avtech.com/articles/138/list-of-email-to-sms-addresses
https://20somethingfinance.com/how-to-send-text-messages-sms-via-email-for-free/

 

I believe if you buy a house in Belgium the only people who know are the seller, the lender, insurer, and the notaires. It’s supposedly not public information -- unlike other countries which publish an open database of who owns what property, searchable by anyone.

Even the water provider (Vivaqua) does not know, despite a law whereby if a tenant bounces without paying their water bill, Vivaqua can hold the home owner responsible in some situations. But as a practical matter Vivaqua is blocked because they do not get automatic access to ownership info. They must go through a long beurocratic process to obtain that info (so at some level the gov must know as well.. likely the property tax offices).

Anyway, I just brought up Vivaqua as an example of the extent of privacy home owners are granted in Belgium. If Vivaqua has a hard time getting the info then so does everyone else.

Or so it’s said.. my question: where is real estate privacy written? This whole concept of real estate privacy in Belgium is non-existent as far as my preferred search service knows. I could not find any information about it. Real estate statutes were overhauled in 2021, so It’s unclear if the privacy factor remained.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ah, we call that “cashback” when you use a grocery or convenient store cash register like an ATM. I did not get the impression you could ask for any arbitrary amount, but if so then that would solve that problem (case 1).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Oh, actually I’m not sure why I had €20 in mind. Indeed some ATMs can dispense €10. But I don’t think I’ve seen one dispense €5. Some people will miss €9.99 more than others. But regardless, it’s embarrassing that banks don’t have the competency to enable customers to cash out. They have to do a bit of a dance and a hack to get all their money out of the bank.

Can't you exchange the money in a normal store? That at least used to be possible here.

Not sure what you mean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you see a value limit enshrined in the UDHR, feel free to quote it here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

ATMs are a particular kind of cash machine, but cash machines are not necessarily ATM machines. The machine I describe at the grocery store enables customers to pay for their groceries without the cashier having to touch the bank notes. The customer can feed a €50 banknote in the machine, and get back change. The grocery machine handles any denomination. But it’s not an ATM (short for Automatic [bank] Teller Machine).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The bank isn't depriving you of your property, you agreed to convert your cash into a legally binding right to access cash in the future

It’s not one or the other. It’s both at the same time. Consumers are deprived of their property as a consequence of that agreement. The bank in case 1 currently says: to get your €19.99 back, either open another bank account or fuck off (in so many words).

From there, it comes down to whether you can sign away your human rights.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This depends on the country.

In the US: legal tender has different charactoristics depending on whether it is point of sale (PoS) or debt. W.r.t PoS, legal tender ensures the seller can accept it if they want, but have the option. W.r.t debts, legal tender entitles debtors to be able to use it for payment.

In Belgium: there is no distinction between PoS and debts. It’s as CanadaPlus says.. Legal tender must be accepted either way. But there are some exceptions: if the seller and buyer are not in the same physical place at the same time, there is no obligation to accept cash. Sellers/creditors can also reject banknotes that are disproportionate to the transaction amount. The bizarre thing about Belgium is there are various circumstances where a debtor only has cash but a creditor can refuse it, e.g. if they have no physical presence. In practice it’s even worse because some business simply break the law by refusing cash, and it’s not enforced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Indeed, a banker’s draft almost always involves a fee. Though it’s possible that some high value accounts in places like the US would come with some perks like a few gratis banker’s drafts per year. Certainly it’s not the norm anywhere that I am aware of.

And from there, cashing the banker’s draft is a problem. @[email protected] is apparently thinking in terms of the U.S. case where there are (predatory) high-fee “checks cashed” shops all over, where at least you can get a check cashed. I think a European with a cheque is on shaky territory as it is -- unlikely to get a cheque of any kind, and also unlikely to deposit one, and in if a European has no bank account it’s likely impossible for them to spend a cheque.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

The premise of the question is when the bank refuses you access to your money, which manifests in a number of circumstances. Receiving a check from the bank is useful only in scenario 1, and only possible in parts of the world that still have checks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Indeed, and it’s useful to be aware of that.. things like pinger numbers. But I certainly would not cut the bank any slack for their oppressive mandate that excludes people without a mobile phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

That’s not an ATM machine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I don’t know the guy’s name. It’s a big market and he moves around. I can spot him and his gear but then what? Posting a photo would violate his privacy.

It’s not exactly clear-cut malice either. These are external drives. The enclosure can still be useful and guts could be disposed of and replaced. IMO there’s nothing wrong with selling them so long as he informs the buyer of the issue. Though I doubt he will do that.

I’ve had other unpleasant surprises from other sellers. An external drive was marked “1TB” on the enclosure but when I got home and opened it up, the drive inside had been downgraded to 250gb. The price was fair enough (€4) and I might have bought it anyway, but still disturbing that these shenanigans are not controlled in any way. Also bought a laptop. The guy wanted €50 but agreed to take €10. Then it turned out the backlight was dead. Works only with an external display. The drive inside it was a passworded OPAL drive (impossible to erase and reuse). He was so torn by my low offer I don’t think he was even aware of the defects. The reason buyers get such low prices is because of the risks involved. But it’s a shame sellers do not do basic tests of their own inventory. I think it’s likely more often a case of incompetence and lazyness than dishonesty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (10 children)

It’s not about the last €20¹. It’s about the last €18.45. How do you get €18.45 from an ATM?

Well, shit, that could be an answer too.. cashless banks could have a special kind of ATM that has no denomination limitations. Even my local grocer has a cash machine capable of dispensing all small denominations.

So there are several reasonable things they /could/ be doing, but there is no pressure on them to be competent.

¹ I will edit my post to make this more clear.

(edit) it just occurred to me this is a human rights violation. A very minor one, but against international law nonetheless. You cannot deprive someone of their property. UDHR Art.17:

  1. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
  2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
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