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There are many situations where gov-distributed public information is legally required to be open access. Yet they block Tor.

To worsen matters, the general public largely and naively believes it’s correct to call something as “open access” when in fact there are access restrictions in place.

The resource should work like this:

  1. User supplies an URL
  2. Robot tries to access that page from a variety of different countries, residential and datacenter IPs, Tor, various VPNs, different user-agent strings, etc.
  3. Report is generated that reports the site as “openly accessible” if no obsticles (like 403s) were detected. Otherwise tags the site as “restricted access” and lists the excluded demographics of people.

The report should be dated and downloadable as PDF so that activists can send it to the org behind site with a letter saying: “your website is not open access -- please fix”.

This need somewhat aligns with the mission of the OONI project, but they are not doing this AFAICT.

Update

I just read an announcement about Belgium’s “open data” law, which is basically a summary. It said something like “there should be no unnecessary access restrictions”. I’m not sure to what extent that accurately reflects the law, but it’s an example of what one country considers “open”, fwiw. From there, I would say most Tor blockades are not necessary but rather some lazy sysadmin looking for an easy job. They of course would then like to argue that it’s “necessary” to keep the baddies out.

Update 2

The Open Knowledge Foundation Network defines open data to be completely free from restrictions:

https://okfn.org/en/library/what-is-open/

 

Take the anti-spam directive, for example:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32002L0058&qid=1747912567106

The website gives us the directive but makes no references to the member state’s implementations of that. It seems a bit sloppy that visitors have to try manually searching using some private-sector surveillance advertising search tool to find a member state’s version. In Belgium it’s especially a mess because many of the official websites that “publish” laws are access restricted (e.g. Tor users often denied access). Only some segments of the public can reach some websites. We have Moniteur Belge but that involves digging a law out of a large PDF that globs together many unrelated laws and publications.

According to the EC website, the EC has a duty to verify whether the member state’s version was implemented timely and correctly. Is that done in English, or does the EU have native speakers of all languages on staff doing the verification?

I ask because if there is a translation step, then the EU would perhaps have a good quality English translation of member states laws


which I would like access to. To date, I do machine translations which is tedious. And if the source language is Dutch, the translation tends to be quite poor.

Update: perhaps the biggest shit show is this site:

https://www.stradalex.com/

Visiting from a tor exit node with uMatrix installed, that site is in some kind of endless loop. No idea what kind of shitty JavaScript causes this, but it reloads itself non-stop and never renders. Opening the uMatrix UI shows 3rd party js rows popping up and disappearing faster than you can click to give perms. These people should not be allowed to do web service for legal information.

update 2

This page gives some general links to member state’s law pubs, but you are still left with having to dig around for the implementation that corresponds to the EU directive -- if you can get access.

update 3

Found something useful.. this page is openly accessible and has a “National Transposition” link. From there we can do an /advanced search/ and limit the collection to national transposition and search on 32002L0058, for example.

Then it finds no results, which seems a bit broken. But if I simply do a quick search on 32002L0058 then use the “national transposition” link on the left bar, that seems to work. But then in this test case I followed it all the way to a page that said “ Text is not available.”

In fact, “Text is not available” is what I got on 3 of 3 samples. So it’s a crapshoot. Hopefully the EC folks who verify national implementations are not relying on this same mechanism.

 

Wow, so that’s bizarre. I wonder why the French DPA would think it’s okay to force customers to reveal their gender. Luckily the CJEU overruled them and made it right in the end. But of course it’s still disturbing when a DPA is working against privacy rights.

 

I just heard from someone who tried to deposit €50 in cash into his Belgian bank account. The bank refused to accept the deposit unless he could prove the source of the money.

Indeed.. on a desposit as small as €50. The guy didn’t say where it came from but such small amount could have come in a card as a birthday gift.

Grannies: before putting money in grandkids birthday cards, visit your local notaire and give a sworn testimoney as to where the money came from, get it notorized, and include that with the cash.

The war on cash (thus privacy) has really made some headway in Belgium.

 

wtf.. we cannot simply do an NS lookup in Belgium?

$ dig @"$(tor-resolve resolver1.opendns.com)" -t ns -q europeangreens-eu.mail.protection.outlook.com +tcp +nocomments +nostats +nosearch +noclass +dnssec +noauth +noquestion +nocmd

europeangreens-eu.mail.protection.outlook.com. 0 TXT "Effective April 11, 2025: Due to a court order in Belgium requiring the implementation of blocking measures to prevent access within Belgium to certain domains, the OpenDNS service is not currently available to users in Belgium"

Update

Seems relevant:

Belgian Constitution Article 25:
The press is free; censorship can never be introduced; no security can be demanded from authors, publishers or printers. When the author is known and resident in Belgium, neither the publisher, the printer nor the distributor can be prosecuted.

 

Many member states a daft when it comes to GDPR enforcement. But there are an exceptional few member states that have a Data Protection Authority that actually does their job. E.g., in principle, I might want to file all Article 77 complaints in Norway. Of course, without living there and having no transaction there, it’s outside of the jurisdiction. OTOH, what happens when a company like Microsoft or Google abuses your data and violates the GDPR? I think MS has headquarters in multiple countries: France, Finland, Spain, Norway, Germany, etc. If I have zero confidence in the DPA for the country I am in, can it be effective to direct the GDPR to a another country if MS has a headquarters there? Is there a heirchy of headquarters whereby an ultimate top level headquarters where a corporation is most relevant?

 

Many member states a daft when it comes to GDPR enforcement. But there are an exceptional few member states that have a Data Protection Authority that actually does their job. E.g., in principle, I might want to file all Article 77 complaints in Norway. Of course, without living there and having no transaction there, it’s outside of the jurisdiction.

OTOH, what happens when a company like Microsoft or Google abuses your data and violates the GDPR? I think MS has headquarters in multiple countries: France, Finland, Spain, Norway, Germany, etc. If I have zero confidence in the DPA for the country I am in, can it be effective to direct the GDPR to a another country if MS has a headquarters there?

Is there a heirchy of headquarters whereby an ultimate top level headquarters where a corporation is most relevant?

 

I was out drinking with some Irish heavyweights. Learnt my lesson. I reached a point where I was unconscious on the curb while they were still seemingly 100%. They woke me up to say it was my round to buy another pitcher of Mojito or something (which I think was their way of winding down slowly). So I managed to get more down after that, unfortunately for the cab driver who later drove me.

The window was open, and so I was able to get most of the HCl out the window, down the door exterior. That’s better than upholstery. Cab driver was not happy. I think he demanded something like €30 or €50 to clean it up. I don’t recall, but I was able to haggle him down to €15 or 20. As plastered as I was, IANAL but the analytical law part of the brain triggered and functioned well enough that I could pitch my defense case like this:

  • Did I sign a contract when I stepped in here agreeing to a vomit cleanup fee?
  • Can you show me a placard on your dashboard disclosing a vomit cleanup fee?
  • Most of it is on the outside of the door (just do a robotic car wash bro).. you just have a little on the inside of the door.
  • It’s not the really chunky variety, FWIW.
  • Will you take €15/20? (I forgot exactly what deal we struck but he seemed satisfied that he was at least getting some compensation)

Indeed after sobering up I realized I was the asshole. Or maybe we both were. IDK.. weird situation. On the one hand, vomit cleanup is not exactly a competitive marketplace. The driver has a monopoly and he can quote whatever crazy price he wants. OTOH, I had all the leverage because I’m basically just anonymous cash-paying street trash without motivation to buy additional services that I don’t need, and you can’t suck blood out of a rock.

In principle it should be me cleaning the car, but I was so dysfunctional.. struggling to walk, I probably couldn’t handle the job to any level of QA that would pass the next customer’s standards. If it weren’t 3am or whatever, we could have driven to a street corner where people just stand around looking for ad hoc work. Then maybe we could have gotten bids from everyone to clean the cab at a competitive market price.

Anyway, if you take a cab in Brussels and see a big loud and clear sign posted on the dash quoting a vomit cleanup fee or the driver requires an advance cleanup deposit, you might know the history.

This should really just be covered by insurance.. like getting a rock chip, no deductible.

Update

I just thought of another fun argument to make for the next time this happens:

A boss once told me: if I know that you are intoxicated when you sign my contract, the contract becomes unenforceable in Belgium.

So, when I step into a cab in a plastered state and there is later a negotiation, I can say “you must have known I was drunk as I stumbled around taking an indirect walking path to your cab and my speech is slurred -- therefore any contract express or implied is null and void.” (as if they are taking advantage of my bad state :)

 

I asked for a sheet of national stamps. They gave me prior stamps which do not have “prior” printed on them. Price was high, but I just figured the postage rates are jumping leaps and bounds. It turns out a circled 1 “①” is apparently a priority indicator.

Just a heads-up.. watch out for that. The normal stamps come in a sheet of 10 and I think it’s the head of a prime minister on those things.

 

bPost mailboxes throughout Brussels are littered with stickers and graffiti. They look abandoned. Some boxes have a placard that shows the last collection time of the day, and some do not. If they don’t have the placard, does that mean the box is out of service?

I also wonder how the abandoned ones could be of use. Maybe if you have a legal obligation to send something but you don’t want to, you could use one of these possibly abandoned boxes just to have a courtroom defense.

 

“The state of government open data across the globe in 2015”

^ ok, bit old. But still, I’m surprised. Maybe Mexico does well on the basis of not having much data to share.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Half their internet banking site is off-limits to me

Mind elaborating? Did they restrict your account specifically, or does the website simply treat logins from the US differently? I’m surprised you wouldn’t retain full cloud access so long as your account exists under the terms you signed up for.

I don’t understand why you would tell your Belgian bank that you left Belgium, particularly when your new residence is the US which flags you as a toxic asset that requires special handling. That could only work against you. Surely you would be better off not telling them you moved and use a VPN to Belgium to access your acct.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Bingo. This is true even across EU borders. Rabobank in Netherlands does not exchange info with Rabobank in Belgium, IIUC. (but note I think Rabobank quit doing business in Belgium eventually anyway)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm more referring to the fact that the rate they charge you covers things that you shouldn't get reimbursed for.

That would be the flat fee that they charge annually for overhead (e.g. ~€100/yr). If they are stuffing more overhead into the raw consumption cost per kWh, that’s some dodgy accounting. Here is a typical figure:

  • consumption: 21 €cents/kWh
  • injection: 7 €cents/kWh

If I inject 1 kWh, I get 7 €cents/kWh while someone else pays 21 €cents/kWh for that same unit of energy that I injected. That’s 14 cents overhead (plus the annual flat fees) on 7 cents of energy. When the overhead is more than double the value of the thing delivered, it seems like a swindle especially considering it does not even cover my overhead in generating it. If my solar panels get trashed by hail, the energy supplier says: your problem, not ours, because that’s on your side of the meter. So in effect, I’m actually getting less than 7 €cents/kWh once I factor in my own overhead.

Anyway, I think the take-away here is that it does not make sense for consumers to feed the grid in Belgium. At least not from their own panels. The Brusol deal is entirely different and worth a look. Brusol owns the PVs that sit on your roof for 30 years and they maintain them. Brusol holds the green certs. Then in one of their offers they simply undercut Electrabel by ~50%, so you pay ~10 €cents/kWh regardless of whether it comes from your roof or the grid.

I think if you’re a heavy consumer (consume more than your roof-covered solar array can feed), the Brusol deal is best. If you’re a light consumer, then going off-grid with batteries makes more sense.

The shame of the Brusol deal is you are locked into a 30 year contract and thus tethered to them, dependant on them to treat you right in a very long term relationship. Off-grid gives the freedom, autonomy, and privacy you expect to have when your roof space is sacrificed for PVs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

No. A dozen or so lawyers were in the conversation and one of them said that. No one said otherwise. Since it was a verbal general comment that lawyers cannot accept cash, the law could detail some exceptions or something that I’m unaware of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

they can't reimburse you forever the same amount for the power you put back.

Not sure why you say that. It would only be a problem if every single household generated a surplus, which would be very unrealistic. As it is, they already charge an annual flat fee on top of consumption costs in Brussels to cover overhead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That is my understanding as well. The policing only happens when it comes to selling your energy (to the grid in particular). The price you get for selling the energy back is so lousy that it often makes sense to buy and manage batteries, which is inefficient and wasteful but probably less wasteful than the artificial injection overhead.

In principle it would make sense to store energy in a water tank as well, which may be more efficient than the double conversion with batteries assuming the water is not directly solar heated. But I can only imagine the complexity of a solar inverter being smart enough to manage that.

Also probably makes sense to have refrigerators do most of their running during peak sunlight hours, but also complex to manage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

No, jlai.lu is good. That is why I mention them on the sidebar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I don't know of any such law or even which organization would be able to make such a law.

Regulation (EU) 2021/1230 covers ATMs to some extent. I think there was a law even broader than EU law but I’ve lost track of it -- or just have a bad memory.

(found the bit about receipts being required)

Article 4
Currency conversion charges related to card-based transactions

  1. With regard to the information requirements on currency conversion charges and the applicable exchange rate, as set out in Article 45(1), Article 52, point (3), and Article 59(2) of Directive (EU) 2015/2366, payment service providers and parties providing currency conversion services at an automated teller machine (ATM) or at the point of sale, as referred to in Article 59(2) of that Directive, shall express the total currency conversion charges as a percentage mark-up over the latest available euro foreign exchange reference rates issued by the European Central Bank (ECB). That mark-up shall be disclosed to the payer prior to the initiation of the payment transaction.
  2. Payment service providers shall also make the mark-up referred to in paragraph 1 public in a comprehensible and easily accessible manner on a broadly available and easily accessible electronic platform.
  3. In addition to the information referred to in paragraph 1, a party providing a currency conversion service at an ATM or at the point of sale shall provide the payer with the following information prior to the initiation of the payment transaction: (a) the amount to be paid to the payee in the currency used by the payee; (b) the amount to be paid by the payer in the currency of the payer’s account.
  4. A party providing currency conversion services at an ATM or at the point of sale shall clearly display the information referred to in paragraph 1 at the ATM or at the point of sale. Prior to the initiation of the payment transaction, that party shall also inform the payer of the possibility of paying in the currency used by the payee and having the currency conversion subsequently performed by the payer’s payment service provider. The information referred to in paragraphs 1 and 3 shall also be made available to the payer on a durable medium following the initiation of the payment transaction.

….

What I find shitty about this wording is it’s unclear if the receipt is only required in the case of currency conversion by the ATM. Apparently yes.. apparently if DCC is not offered the the ATM is off the hook for giving a receipt. Several ATMs did not have DCC, but the machie that did not even have a receipt printer offered a DCC option, which seems to be illegal.

Fee structure is indeed extremely intransparent in most cases. Generally, I have too look up ATM fees in my online banking access and I never know them beforehand. Iiuc, your bank and the ATM-operating bank roll the dice to find out the fees they each want to charge as part of the process of handing out your cash anyway.

The fee structure is indeed very well concealed. Before approaching an ATM the fees are undisclosed and many ATMs demand your PIN as the very 1st step. It’s a shit show for sure. But at least they must inform you of fees before you commit to the transaction, per 2021/1230.

In any case, no store wants to receive notes above €100 because politicians and media have successfully created mental associations between those notes and money laundry/corruption/organized crime.

Yeah I heard Germany has no cash acceptance obligation whatsoever, which by extension supports your narrative that they can be fussy about banknotes, as in France.

This contrasts with Belgium where brick and mortar merchants must accept banknotes. They can reject money that is disportionately sized if they want. E.g. they can reject a €200 note on a transaction of €20 but not on a transaction of €175. Or they can reject a shit ton of coins on a 3+ figure transaction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I would say mostly true. And that much is driven by Regulation (EU) 2021/1230. If an ATM offers DCC¹, it must show the exchange rate and fees, and it must give a comparison to a non-DCC option, which must be offered (iow, there must be an opt out).

A common practice is to charge a flat transaction fee when DCC is not used, and to charge no fee when DCC is used, because the exchange rate is so terrible they are profitting hand over fist if you use DCC. But the ATMs often do not expressly state that the fee is waived in the DCC case -- they simply make no mention of the fee you would /otherwise/ pay had you not taken DCC. This is because (IMO) the ATM operator does not want users to relise that the exchange rate builds the fee into their fat margin.

I avoid DCC. But then my bank statement only shows how much was taken from my account in the account’s currency, not the ATM’s currency. The ATM receipt (which apparently does not exist in Germany) gives the local currency you pulled out. These two figures leaves you having trust them as far as the fees go. Some ATMs bundle the fee with the withdrawal amount and the drafting bank has no way of knowing what portion was for the fee. And of course neither do you, unless the machine properly informed you. But what if it didn’t? There is not enough information for the end customer to work out what the overhead was in some cases because the exchange rate applied by the account’s custodian is undisclosed.

¹ DCC: dynamic currency conversion

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Do you think it's politicians' job to provide technology education?

Of course. Public education comes from the public sector. We should be electing politicians with administrations who are smarter than the general public. Any tech education that comes of Twitter abandonment is welcome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Can’t reach that link, but sounds good for folks that talk more than 800 min/yr.

But that’s almost like a postpaid scenario.. use-it-or-lose it rather than pay-as-you-go. My consumption would be well below that, and I can’t even be certain I will be in any one given country for whole year. I’d probably be spending over $1/min with that plan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

But there is a need for politicians to reach their constituents, and if they can be effectively reached by an imperfect method,

Leaders should lead, not follow. Politicians can reach and be reached on a Mastodon server, where all their constituents have access.

Asking ~8 billion (or however many) people to make a personal change first is a non-starter. Demanding many orders of magnitude fewer people (politicians) make the first move to break the dystopian cycle is far more sensible.

then I can accept them using it while also promoting better methods.

Posting on Twitter is an assault on promoting better methods. Mirroring everything on Twitter facilitates the Tyranny of Convenience (great essay by Tim Wu) by making Twitter the superset. It’s important and socially responsible to withhold info from Twitter so that it cannot be the superset.

RMS gives good advice for orgs who think they need a Facebook presence:

https://stallman.org/facebook-presence.html

Politicians don’t need a Twitter presence, but to the extent that they are not convinced, the bare minimum action they can take is implement some of the advice on that RMS page.

Any random 3rd party joe shmoe can make a Twitter bot that mirrors a politician’s msgs to Twitter. In fact, force Twitter to do the work simply by not feeding Twitter. Motivation for Twitter’s self-preservation would appropriately ensure gov resources are not spent on Twitter. Make Twitter be the host of dodgy mirror bots without engagement, where you need Mastodon to actually engage with a politician.

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