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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Hey so what job did your wife do at the police department anyway?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

I had a light bitter chuckle reading the conclusion of this story.

Then I hit the comments. I don't think I've been this entertained in days. agony-consuming

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

ME COMRADE! I SHALL READ THEM!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Well shit, nicely done! Looks so good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think his story is plausible and you shouldn't assume he lied about having a benzo habit. After re-reading my other reply I feel like I might have written in such a way as to lead to that conclusion.

If his body and brain were totally benzo-naive and he was dosed without his knowledge, anything is possible really- if somebody put a huge dose in a drink early in the night he could have crashed off it and had the seizure.

Also worth considering that he could have hit his head on the way down from drinking too heavily or from being drugged while drinking. I assume they scanned for a concussion and ruled it out but who knows?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

At the moment my usage varies a lot, I'm in a strange situation where I appear to be fairly tolerant to both benzos and their withdrawal, so I seem to be getting away with wildly fluctuating dosing.

However, I would say on average in the past month my usage has hovered between 2mg to 4mg alprazolam (xanax) equivalent. Note however that I am not using alpraz, I'm using a different obscure benzo, and equivalency charts only tell about half the story with more complex benzodiazepines. The current drug I am using does not produce much euphoria and is very sedative in its action (at least for me.) I have also been drinking to excess fairly regularly, the combo makes me impulsive and unpredictable with my doses, but this particular drug's long half-life and the experience I have with quitting means I don't think I'm going to Find Out after all this Fucking Around, I hope.

At my worst, I was taking easily 30mg xanax equivalent (or literally xanax) per day. Sometimes up to 60mg I think. Real reckless shit. At the point where I went through a managed benzo taper my tolerance was so high that I had to crash down to a lower dose to receive the maximum that would be prescribed to me without hospitalisation or institutionalisation. That was off some exotic high potency shit. That taper started at 120mg of valium per day and I was still pretty fuckin tense.

Today is a day where I have decided to ease off the throttle though. We'll see if I can keep that going for the entire day. I have also opted to have a friend prepare my liquid solution at periodically decreasing levels of concentration for the last couple of weeks and have asked that it be done subtly but without my knowledge of exactly what ratio the solution is mixed at so that I don't run the numbers and bypass my current taper progress which I'm just doing by volume of solution consumed.

I'm definitely addicted but the overall dose is fairly low / within my comfort zone for being able to get off the shit again. I am tired of being tired and weak.

In general the sooner you stop daily dosing, the earlier you intervene, the quicker you will recover. I'm glad your usage didn't get any further out of control or extended, if you quit cold turkey with a serious dependence you are entering brain damage territory. Definitely do research if you ever find yourself using these drugs again, as a rule you should never just stop completely.

Consider yourself super lucky, your partner was right to be concerned, but stopping daily usage after months is a pretty big gamble to take. I know it's hard though, with pressies, to divide up doses and taper effectively.

And congratulations on stopping. The initial withdrawal period is definitely unpleasant even when it's not life threatening. I'm proud of you for sticking the landing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Hmm.

That's a simple sounding question with complex answers. A big dose of benzos can definitely knock you out and mixing benzos with alcohol is a real recipe for blackout disasters. Both drugs reduce inhibition. Benzos have definitely been used to drug people for SA or other types of abuse.

It would seem unlikely, according to my knowledge, that benzos alone or even benzos and alcohol would produce a seizure while under the influence if he was otherwise neurologically healthy.

Seizures with benzos tend to happen when you are chemically dependent on them and withdraw suddenly or taper too rapidly. The seizure that damaged my friend's brain was from unmanaged withdrawal. I believe I too have had very mild seizures during withdrawals.

To speculate, but not to presume:

If he was using benzos without anyone's knowledge, and particularly if he had stopped using them, then alcohol can, as I understand it, precipitate acute withdrawal symptoms even after you have been weened off the drug for a while. Longer term benzo dependence tends to result in something called post-acute withdrawal syndrome. You could look that up if you're curious about the various issues associated with it, but I believe you can be neurologically vulnerable during that time, so it's plausible that some binge drinking could trigger a seizure.

I think it's also possible that the drug test inaccurately classified something as a benzodiazepine, but that's stepping well outside my knowledge area. Just that I know sometimes drug tests will pick up on metabolites (the shit your body converts a chemical into) and will then classify that as a positive test for the most likely drug to produce that metabolite. In an era of research chemicals / drug analogs being sold as other drugs, I believe drug testing can sometimes be a bit "outdated" so to speak, and over generalise the results.

I would not rule out that he was drugged without knowledge or consent. He may have had a paradoxical reaction or had a condition that predisposed him to react badly to whatever could have been given to him with or without his knowledge.

I may have further thoughts on this later. I shall contemplate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yes. I was diagnosed with clinical depression and anxiety at the same time I was diagnosed as trans at the very end of my teenage years.

Finding benzos, particularly valium, felt like I had found a complete solution to fixing all the things that held me back in life and like it allowed me to shine and be myself and free to explore the world and to socialise, etc. I would call this the honeymoon phase, it was on and off use and I felt basically in control. During that phase I don't believe I was addicted and managed to stop entirely when my supply ran out without any real issues. I was lucky at that point and should have taken the experiences I'd had during that time and learned to aim for that sort of mental state through better self management and self knowledge.

Things turned darker a while later, basically when bulk xanax / alprazolam arrived in my life and I was reunited with my "wonder drug" - but the amount I was using and abusing, the delusions of sobriety, impulsive redosing, confusing self medication with recreation and visa versa, etc etc, it led to a lot of problems and acts of foolishness. Things got out of control and into addiction very quickly.

While I was clean and sober (at least 18+ months) after the worst years of my addiction, the anxiety I felt was orders of magnitude worse than the anxiety I was trying to fix originally. I realised how naive I had been to consider my natural level of anxiety to be as debilitating as I thought it was. I was also uneducated in trauma and cPTSD at that point so I really had no comprehension of why I was the way I was, why I am predisposed to these mental traps and the easy chemical remedies.

I have strategies now and, I believe, a much better understanding of myself, so I am fairly hopeful that the next time I get clean I will be able to cope and function much better, but I could have saved myself and the people around me a lot of chaos and pain if I had just taken the time to learn how to manage anxiety properly in the first place without the chemical crutch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Any comment from the based department? I feel like this is based department territory.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

lol

Has the .gov turned about on their Rust recommendation yet because woke? I shall continue cackling until I am starved to death by supply chain collapse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Did you freestyle it or did you follow a recipe? Silken tofu or one of the firmer varieties?

I really miss cooking with tofu and 2025 I'm bringing it back to my diet. I'm working towards vegetarianism and probably ultimately veganism cuz I just feel so much better when I cook ethically and intentionally.

And because the vegan hardliners are objectively correct and have ethical superiority. I wish to join them as soon as I can figure it out and keep myself and my people properly fed and all of that while being basically a fuckup, creature of habit, filthy carnist and constantly fearing a relapse into ED.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Hahahaha.

Okay little guy.

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TrainGang (hexbear.net)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

These train tats are cool.

But yeah LITERALLY TRAINGANG. Fuck yeah.

 

Preface: I was curious about this so I did some research. I read some rather upsetting and disgusting things. I noticed some comrades were also uninformed on this stuff so I am sharing what I have learned. I have done my best to treat this topic respectfully. Links at the bottom if you don't care to read my rambling effortpost. If, like me, your reaction to being told the dunk tank has "racist roots" was a lib'd out "yeah, but reeeeally tho?" I suggest you go read the Jim Crow Museum links and hopefully you too will be revolted by what you see and will also recognise the importance of the community name change.

I assume this has already been discussed here, since I didn't really see anyone go ???? about that aspect of the c/*_tank critique. I didn't ask for infoz or clarity on this in the midst of the recent strugglebrawl because that's not really what everyone was fighting about. But while I've been catching up on some spin-off threads discussing the recent turmoil I've seen some of my fellow uninformeds express skepticism over whether that "long ago" history was really relevant, whether anyone would really associate dunk tanks with their apparent and maybe obscure racist history, that sort of thing.

long self indulgent rambling about my experience with dunk tanks irl and reflecting on my knee-jerk assumptionsI was mildly skeptical myself, like "I guess they had black people on the receiving end of the humiliation originally/in some places" "probably problematic, but also probably we're just erring on the side of abundance of caution for the most vulnerable people" "heh, amerikkkans."

Maybe skeptical isn't the right word- good people with more knowledge than me were saying it was problematic/tone-deaf/hurtful and that was/is good enough for me.

Still, I had no idea about this history and I was curious about it, so I did some searches to catch myself up. I am not from the United Snakes, but dunk tanks were (are?) a thing in my settler country too. I remember them at school fairs and rural easter shows (etc) growing up.

Usually the person in the tank was a "respected" member of the community- at a school fair it might have been the principle or vice principle, at a local show it was often a fellow student volunteer/worker, or a local council person. Or it was a professional clown.

My experiences were in a shithole so infested with cracker bigotry that I copped years of bullying for being a different type of white person. I'm not sure we had any people of colour to do cruelty to. (Mild exaggeration, there were two (2) racial minority families and they copped brutal bald faced racist abuse and violence.)

Dunk tanks also featured on kids TV in those zany slime and ooze based obstacle course game shows. Very normalised. There was no apparent racial component in my experience, so I assumed that this was not an inherent part of the dunk tank game.


All that to say: my personal experience is totally irrelevant and my assumptions couldn't have been more wrong.

This is my current understanding:

Firstly: The genesis of the Dunk Tank WAS inextricably linked to brutal, sometimes fatal, often disfiguring and brain damaging racial violence for the entertainment of white people.

When the Dunk Tank was created in America it was part of a progressive-for-the-time reform that replaced a hugely popular game that went by several names, the only one of which I'm comfortable typing out is "African Dodger" - the aim of the game was to throw a baseball (allegedly, usually, a lighter ball than was used in actual baseball) or eggs at a black man poking his head out between some curtains.

Ball for African Dodger

It appears that it was not uncommon for people to bring their own heavy balls to the game to use instead. There are multiple stories sourced from newspaper articles of the time that report on local professional baseball players attending to pitch at the victim. Some assholes just threw rocks.

There are a number of upsetting stories detailing the damage done to the victims. Horrible stuff to read- the degree of physical damage to teeth, eyes, faces and heads. Multiple deaths.

The Dunk Tank did not (immediately) replace African Dodger everywhere, but where it was introduced it was more or less a stand-in for the earlier "game" trading physical violence for humiliation. It was still about doing cruel shit to black men for fun at the carnival.

African Dodger continued to be a thing until at least the 1950s, overlapping the introduction of the Dunk Tank by about 40 years. During that time, whether the white-people-do cruelty-to-black-people game was about inflicting physical damage or inflicting humiliation (dodge or dunk) depended on where you lived and whether locals were still comfortable smashing people's faces in and cracking skulls to impress their girlfriends.

Both games were a vehicle for violence, abuse and degradation of black men for sport.

If you want to subject yourself to the gory details, slurs, offensive promotional posters etc, these are my sources for this part:
https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2012/october.htm
https://freedium.cfd/https://dalebrumfield.medium.com/non-lethal-lynching-f9ee5bbbfbcc (medium post, paywall bypassed)
https://ameripics.wordpress.com/2016/01/10/the-african-dodger/
https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2019/september.htm


Secondly: Yes, people do still know this history and associate dunk tanks with white supremacy and racial violence. This issue is not just concern trolling / a convenient cover excuse to modify hexbear culture as I have seen suggested or implied in the wake of the happening.

School district bans dunk tanks this year, presumably because people were upset with and/or alienated by the continuation of this foul legacy into the modern age after the black victim was generally replaced with a clown.
https://www.mapleridgenews.com/community/no-more-dunk-tanks-for-maple-ridge-and-pitt-meadows-schools-7374988

2019 article about dunk tanks being phased out. It's wishy washy on whether that is because people are uncomfortable with its legacy or because people are bothered by the modern dunk tank clown heckling and insulting them to bark customers to the game, but still, this has evidently been a subject of modern mainstream discourse:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/style/insult-clowns.html

2019 Jim Crow Museum website responding to a reader query about the retirement of the dunk tank from "polite society" (hah..) https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2019/september.htm

2022 article about the same thing, mentions NAACP helping to ban the explicitly racial implementation of the dunk tank by the end of the 1950s: https://www.pushblack.us/news/troubling-history-dunk-tank-carnival-games

2023 blog post: https://allthatsinteresting.com/african-dodger

2024 EXCELLENT blog post, loss of urban amusement parks and carnivals as third places. Segregation in those venues etc. ctrl-f Drop the Chocolate, or a Black man in a dunk tank to jump to the part most relevant to this effortpost, with an interesting observations about the awkwardness of continuing these sorts of games while black men were dying in the trenches of WW1.
https://www.melaninbasecamp.com/trip-reports/2024/3/29/third-places-lost-to-racism-urban-amusement-parks

Random other interesting post about dunk tanks not making it into the San Fran 1915 expo. Interesting/challenging photos: http://davegilson.com/african-dip.html

 

You think you can just take away our _tanks?

 
 
 

Cognitohazard games medalist contender in the making.

 

I fkn love this release so much.

Any more recent witch house I should check out? Ty.

 

but I'm fucking lame
and my life is tame

I'm writing rhymes on main
Like I'm gucci mane
but I'm fucking lame
and my life is tame

and I-
really started writing this crap
I really don't know where my head is at
I'm on hexbear and I'm feelin whack
not cuz of hexbear, dont get it wrong jack
this is where I come to relax
this is where I come to hear the people spit facts
when I'm really on my lonely
when I'm really on my jugga-lugga-lowly
or maybe I'm just fuckin bored
especially since I had to quit discord
got too online, beefing with people
wind me up and see me go evil
and the drugs didn't help
whelp, better do more drugs
cuz life is-
hell I don't even know anymore
I did it do myself, made it a chore
like counting syllables
miss me with that shit I'm fucking miserable
not alone but alone, invisible
people together 'posed to be indivisible
sorry to say I'm feeling cynical
livin in a world where someone didn't want creamsicle
but that mufucka made it and imma make it too
no more pavement
soros notice me senpai, I need payment
please pay me or I'mma come and take it
you know I might just wrap it up here
thanks everybody for lending me your ear

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BUSTED (hexbear.net)
 

I was checking out this guy and his skateboard and drip.

Then he turned around and saw me and I don't think I even remembered to smile.

In my defense I was kinda shook cuz I don't normally find people attractive, let alone men, let alone enough to be staring. He looked so punk-dirtbag and hot. What the fuck.

Anyway I'm here to turn myself in to horny jail.

 

Apparently as a protest against "cashless society" efforts.

Yeah righto, it's a bank run and it better be funny as fuck.

Mainstream news are already drawing attention to it so there might be a slim chance that something entertaining will transpire.

 

The "TrueAnon Guide" or whatever the fuck is a psyop to make us forget.

 

I thought she just didn't want to do sex stuff or cuddle or show affection..

Anyway I just thought it was important to let the world know that you can be volcel army and still be in a committed ten year relationship. In fact isn't that what true comradeship is built on?

Weapons grade cope aside, I think I'm one of those weird types of humans who needs affection and so on. Am I really going to have to start dating again? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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