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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, bacterial spores are basically a specific defense and survival stage for bacteria that are resilient to pretty much everything, you gotta go for sterilization procedures to reliably get rid of them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Based on my rudimentary understanding of this stuff from being in the middle of a trade school sterile technician program, what this sounds like to me is that they are discovering that bleach is not working on spores of antibiotic resistant bacteria, but not that it used to work and now it doesnt, they just assumed that disinfectants were sufficient.

What I am being taught right now is that bacterial spores, being in essence a mechanism to protect the bacteria by going dormant and forming a shell around itself, can only be properly and acceptably dealt with by flat out sterilization, this means either a process like subjecting them to ~~90c degree heat in~~ an autoclave or similar for instruments, or some really fucked up strong chemicals to sterilize larger surfaces.

For context, the acceptable perimeters that I have been taught for disinfection vs sterilization is that for every 1000 things you disinfect, its acceptable to find 1 microorganism in these 1000. For sterilization this becomes 1 in 1,000,000.

Im not gonna be dealing with any fabrics to my knowledge, but the guidance Ive received on my work attire is that it only has to be subjected to regular 60c degree washes, same as underwear. I would have to go back and look at more material but patient gowns and such might just fall into a category of better safe than sorry and just make them single use if this is a concern? Unless the gowns can hold up to sterilization procedures.

Edit: Looked through my material Ive received so far and theres nothing about fabrics but plastics like gloves or plastic gowns are just flat out single use then recycle or burn. Googled a bit and I found some US studies about autoclaving single use gowns that were not visibly dirty or contaminated, but this was in the context of pandemic supply line issues so as to maintain some degree of operations.

I would assume that gowns made out of fabric are more tolerant of that but being stuck in an autoclave is gonna be rough either way.

Edit2: also disregard my 90c comment, Im mixing up procedures cause its past my bedtime, thats for disinfection in a washer-disinfector that we're currently being taught about, autoclaves are way hotter than that, above the boiling point of water(cause its steam, duh.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Hopefully the book deal goes the way of Glinners autobiography.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That sounds like someone who vaguely heard of french potato salad but then never remembered a single part of the recipe beyond oil, just skipping the vinegar and/or mustard.

Goes well with chives also.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

Love the implication that the staff would custom produce airplane themed not-keffiyeh lookalike scarves for plausibly deniable Palestine support.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Coke was invented to treat confederate veterans morphine addictions

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

che-smile Who must go?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't he like in fucking arrest in Romania???

The fuck happened?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Some notes on the Swedish, he doesnt actually say "self defense", he just says "försvar" or defense.

"Israel has the right to defense" is obviously not a particularly correct grammar in terms of politics, if he said that they have the right to "självförsvar" that would make sense as self defense, or "rätt till ett försvar" or "a defense" that would also make sense as basically saying they have the right to a military, but just defense is kind of light nonsense.

Also in Swedish, genocide is "folkmord" or people-murder, he begins by saying "folk" and stops himself extremely abruptly, apparently having just supported Israels right to people, again not "a people" or "their people" just "people."

Edit: Also the thing he sort of ended up saying, "folkförsvar" is technically a political term, but Ive only recently heard it used to refer to specifically the Swedish defense sector, and how it should be strengthened with mandatory military service as well as self-sustaining military infrastructure, shit like that.

Its not something that means that they have right to defend their people, that would be "försvara sitt folk".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Thats one interpretation, but it really isnt any less nonsensical than him saying just "folk", what compound word would he follow it up with? They have a right to prisoner exchange?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Svennar in Swedish, idk if maybe the Norwegians or Danes would say Svenner so it probably works as a regionally appropriate insult if you prefer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

That one is extremely funny too, particularly since it makes Oswald even more of a failguy.

Criminal that there hasnt been a comedic farce made about that theory yet in the style of like Death of Stalin.

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