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You've now gone from avoiding the eroticized SV to denying it. You are contorting your self worse than Fighter's spine contorted so you could have her chest and buttocks shown so clearly in the same panel, right after her clothes were vaporized in one panel.

But you've gotta work with the pieces you're given! It was needed to get printed! It's not eroticizing SV because . . . fuck . . .

I think the stronger parody would be if you could only play as your own sex because anything else would be trans ideology

I think maybe I don't understand your point.

How can I be more clear than "deliberate compositional choices"?

I am not particularly intrested in going over the part of the discourse that is never going to be settled.

The only sense in which it is "never going to be settled" is the sense in which obtuse philistines and sickos will continue to insist, as I alluded to in another comment, that "the curtains are blue and nothing more". For all your talk of artistic rights, you seem to have no inclination to actually analyze something as art instead of just as a bunch of things that a writer said happened.

It specifically isn't glorifying violence. Everyone finds it abhorrent all the time. They even specifically call out the fact that if the government tried to help the people all this could be avoided.

As I recall, the government helping would be by organizing and subsidizing the violence against the ~~untermensch~~ goblins rather than leaving it to the people to handle. I don't understand how you think this advances your point.

Sexualizing teenage girls is not negated by also sexualizing teenage boys, though you really misunderstand what the concept of sexualization even is if you think the balls thing is relevant here. Sex gags are often used as an excuse for sexualization, but the balls plot and associated jokes are clearly not.

You are furthermore making up bizarre criteria to excuse the base facts of the depiction. Whether the women are helpless for the entire scene is completely immaterial, there are countless smut manga that are just as if not more disgusting where the woman does (eventually) escape of her own power.

She didn't need to lose her shirt to "make the threat more real", that was done purely for the viewer's pleasure.

More centrally to your comment, I'm not saying that Dandadan and Goblin Slayer are the same thing, I'm saying you are engaging in the same fallacy that Goblin Slayer apologists are, acting like something cannot simultaneously be eroticized and narratively "bad." In many cases, those two things can be closely interlinked, because something being narratively "bad" does not mean that you do not, on a meta level, want the viewer to not enjoy it. That's not how stories work. The Alien is meant to be scary, but it is simultaneously meant to be cool, made more obvious in the way it basically became a mascot in later enstallments. At the end of Rogue One, Darth Vader slaughtering the rebels is narratively a grim event, but it's very clearly fanservice in the broader sense because it's simultaneously meant to be enjoyed as a power fantasy of an action scene watching him carve up and force choke a big group of nameless opponents. This idea that every scene means only its explicit narrative depiction from the protagonist's perspective is like hearing the words someone says and assuming each word is exactly what it denotatively means with no nuance of connotation or innuendo.

If UT was still with us, I have faith he would say: "The curtains are blue".

.See, I don't think it is an ethnic cleansing allegory.

I didn't say it was an ethnic cleansing allegory, I said it was an ethnic cleansing fantasy. I'm not saying that the shitbag mangaka was hoping the reader would take away from the manga "I think we should do this to Koreans," I'm saying their desire was for the reader to be immersed in a fictional setting where the ethnic cleansing of this particular intelligent, humanoid species that is able to reproduce with human women is not only justified but righteous. How does that relate to the real world? I don't think the mangaka cares. You and I aren't the mangaka, and we have the ability to critically assess things, like what exactly is being appealed to by depicting organisms that are ontologically evil SV machines that force human women to give birth to more of their kind.

I just feel like this author was trying to do something diffrent with the base parts they were given.

"Given"? I'm sorry, were they an artist who inherited a manga-in-progress from an author who quit? No, they fucking chose it. They could have chosen anything and they chose what I just described above.

It isn't entirely successful I get that.

This is a bad joke. They weren't just making mistakes to depict this shit in an eroticized way, they made deliberate compositional choice after deliberate compositional choice (and then repeated it but three times worse in Year One's first chapter just to make sure you know it wasn't somehow a catastrophic accident). If you want to depict SV as something horrible . . . first of all, really consider not depicting the act itself, it's gonna be gratuitous, but secondly don't depict it like that.

It is however less rasicst and more against sexual violence than any random marvel move

I'm sure you find it compelling to say that it deals with issues better than something that doesn't deal with them at all, but that would be a lame argument even if it was true and it's not even true! It makes deliberate compositional choices to make sure that isn't the case.

I dunno, I feel like the fact that it depicts violence as bad

Sure as hell doesn't depict violence against intelligent humanoids of each species as being bad. Oh! Sorry! You meant sexual violence. It depicts it as being bad in maybe the same way a racist views BBC as being bad, i.e. still something to get off on.

things it arguably did no worse than any other anime of the time.

The first issue of the manga was in 2016! What fucking renaissance has happened since then that let's us go "let's not judge the past by the standards of the present"?! Furthermore, most other manga were not depicting eroticized r*** and a great deal weren't doing ethnic cleansing fantasies.

Yes, yes, I am quite familiar with how a petty official needs to often perform legislative bypass surgeries or calculate the drag on a court ruling. Absolute sophistry.

Licensure provides a basis for accountability defined by the government, whose legitimacy is founded on democratic input. Can you spot the contradiction in the government, whose legitimacy is founded on democratic input, handing out licenses that decide who democratic input is permitted to select?

The basis for accountability of an institution that is only legitimized by the popular mandate must also be democracy. The people can decide if their will is being carried out, and if it isn't they can pick someone else (preferably by recall if it's really a problem).

Eroticized sexual violence is unacceptable. I don't care if it's clickbait to get people to watch anime The Second Sex, it's fucked up and I don't give a shit how grumpy that makes you. Of course, it's not that, it's an ethnic cleansing fantasy, but I'm sure I would never make it very far trying to explain to you that a) that is true and b) that is bad.

Not that there isn't fucked up sexist shit later too, with the impressively misogynistic human shields. Killing the ontologically evil swarthy sex fiends doesn't actually mean being progressive.

Maybe there's a rock out there made, by complete chance, in such huge proportion of silicon that it becomes more viable, I don't give a shit. It was just an aside anyway, pick another based on the same principle if you like. Why an obligate biped? Why this size? Why not a flying creature? Why not a rotationally-symetrical monstrosity? Why not an intelligent species that physically couldn't really be engineers but happen to live on the same planet as creatures who can? Or who just get contacted by outside life that can? I'm a dipshit who mostly prefers pulp and cosmic horror (read: fantasy) science fiction, so I'm sure someone who knows more could come up with more and better prompts.

Additionally people need touch ups and re-examination if it's many years later as education really does atrophy over time if it's unused information,

Officials have terms. If they are at the end of their term, do the voters view them as fit to keep going or don't they? If they want to keep going, they probably should prepare, since that's a good way of appearing fit. Further, if there is some precipitous decline or even if it turns out they weren't really prepared, there're recall elections. I wonder if China has those.

Edit: It was "Whole People's State", which rhetorically makes way more sense. I got mixed up.

Mob Psycho 100 is cool

I have read the Manga quite far in and in that, this stuff is clearly framed as bad/unacceptable.

Bull fucking shit, this is the excuse that Goblin Slayer apologists use, but in both cases the (threat of) SV is eroticized. They could have even kept the alien's dumb pornbrain motivation but just not stripped her of her cloths and your line of reasoning, while not saved, would be more plausible.

They gotta have the bad thing in there in order to comment on it meaningfully. That's what media is supposed to do.

It's really hard to respond semi-civilly to this because it's somewhere on the range between hopelessly foolish and utterly contemptible. No, they don't need to depict the lead up to eroticized SV to comment on it, what the fuck are you talking about? Also, they aren't commenting on it! I've read almost all of the manga and they never "comment on it meaningfully". It's just hentai-esque bullshit used to grab the attention of teenage boys.

The first episode is easily the most lurid. The SA aliens retain that motivation, but there is never another "staging" of those intentions like the one that turns up early on. I'm maybe two chapters short of caught up to the manga and the generic anime problem of sexualizing teenagers obviously remains, but I don't think things ever get nearly as bad as the first episode or the water level.