EndlessNightmare

As an aside, you seem to have really struck a nerve with OP. They are even attacking me now, lol.

I've already had to report them for becoming abusive.

You are responding to the wrong person. You will not respond to me any further. Thanks in advance for your compliance.

Huh, I think you're responding to the wrong person here. This comment clearly seems intended for @womjunru@lemmy.cafe , with whom you've been in a spirited debate with.

I'm not getting combative or lecturing anyone here.

That's my point though. They aren't doing a modest change when presented with information regarding factory farms. Because that modest change would come at an increased (financial) cost.

84 hours/week. Really no-lifing it

the person needs to have no risk from attending

The government deals in violence and knows how to handle groups of protestors, whether they originate as peaceful or violent. Don’t play to their strengths by engaging them on that level and giving them a confrontation that they can escalate.

Non-participation, boycotts, malicious compliance, quiet quitting, anticonsumption, and birthstriking are more my style. It’s not glamorous or quick, but governments are notoriously inept at dealing with situations that they can’t just beat or shoot at. They don’t know what to do when a hammer is an ineffective tool for the job.

These sorts of actions may be inconvenient or cause you to forgo certain things that you want. However it doesn't put you in any actual risk, whether it be physical, legal, or financial. The non-risk aspect of it means that it has a much lower barrier to entry, and thus a lower threshold for how bad things need to get before people take action.

They're complaining about not being cruel enough to the chickens. Not a good look.

How I would differentiate:

People still have agency when faced with propaganda and indoctrination. Actual mind control is more of a physiological effect that removes agency.

To answer your question: yes I think it is possible. Consider what chemical substances can do to the brain.

It would also help if we didn't raise chickens in absolutely disgusting conditions

If you’re gonna cite the problem being that the farm is a “factory farm”, then the alternative is to, obviously, make it a humane farm.

Even with knowledge of factory farms, the general public (non-vegan) don't seriously seem to be pushing back and pushing for a change in farming.

Regardless of what vegans' end goal is, spreading awareness doesn't seem to be getting people to go for more modest changes either.

That footage will come out. Then people will protest. And nothing will change.

My point is that it is not productive to engage in people who have no empathy, because it won't actually accomplish anything. It is a wasted effort.

It's sort of along the lines of the Serenity Prayer. They fall under the "things I cannot change."