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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

If you’re gonna cite the problem being that the farm is a “factory farm”, then the alternative is to, obviously, make it a humane farm.

Even with knowledge of factory farms, the general public (non-vegan) don't seriously seem to be pushing back and pushing for a change in farming.

Regardless of what vegans' end goal is, spreading awareness doesn't seem to be getting people to go for more modest changes either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

Perhaps, but you’re much more likely to get people to undertake modest to change than radical change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 34 minutes ago (1 children)

That's my point though. They aren't doing a modest change when presented with information regarding factory farms. Because that modest change would come at an increased (financial) cost.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago) (1 children)

No, your point is that you’re mad that the entire world hasn’t gone vegan, and you’re venting your frustration here. Problem with that is, that isn’t gonna get anyone to change their habits either. It’s just going to cement the stereotype of the whiny, bitchy, pretentious, condescending vegan that has been so well earned by every vegan on this planet.

If everybody hates what you are, nobody’s going to become what you are. Be the change you want to see in the world. Stop being such a whiny, bitchy, condescending, pretentious jerk about telling everyone what they should be doing with their lives. You have no right to do that, and more people than not will do the exact opposite just to show you up.

People hate to be lectured. And that’s all that vegans know how to do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago) (1 children)

Huh, I think you're responding to the wrong person here. This comment clearly seems intended for @[email protected] , with whom you've been in a spirited debate with.

I'm not getting combative or lecturing anyone here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

I’ve explained pretty clearly why what you think does not reflect reality. Including your inability to even conceive that criticism may be pointed towards you.

That is, yet, another problem with your position. You believe it to be infallible. Clearly, you are wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago) (1 children)

You are responding to the wrong person. You will not respond to me any further. Thanks in advance for your compliance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

You will not respond to me any further

Wrong again!

Thank you for proving my point. Your fanaticism has blinded you. Psychologist would call this “deflection”.