Egon
joined 2 years ago
No worries, I also apologise for the hostility in my response. I just feel like there's some people who have had the "get in the robot" discussion with chuds a bunch of times, and now I become someone they can unload frustrations onto. So I feel a need to set some very clear boundaries.
I think the show is kinda challenging itself due to the stakes of the world. It's very hard to sympathise with Shinji being afraid to get in the robot, when the entire world is at stake. It's hard to sympathise with him being afraid, when the alternative to getting in the robot is also him dying. On a larger scale I really think his dad doesn't just suck as a father, but also at his job. Dude really needs to be there for his best pilot and the fact he isn't willing isn't a great seal of excellence.
My frustration with Shinji is mainly in the first episode. That's where I'm (internally) screaming "holy shit dude shut the fuck up and get in the robot and then figure out all this shit if you all survive afterwards but get in the robot please".
And then finally the whole arguing from the position that I don't understand basic stuff, but that's in large part me projecting my insecurities onto you and me taking frustrations from the general vibe of discussions on hexbear and generalising my interactions.
I'm sorry for that, but also kinda not. Says something about the duality of man.
Realistically, the therapists’ job in this scenario would be manipulating the soldiers and/or finding ways to numb and avoiding the pain.
Yeah, and they really need someone who actually knows how to do that, instead of Misato whiplashing between supportive caretaker and bullying superior officer.
Anyway, despite relating to Shinji in many ways, the grandness and stakes of the show makes it very hard for me to be on his side. Like I literally become military brained and demand they torture or MKULTRA the kid in order to fight the literal demons.
Yeah, the stakes are too high. There's people telling me "you just don't get it!" and tbh I feel like I get it, the show is very good at establishing Shinjis mental state, the reason for his mental state and why he doesn't wanna get in the robot in episode 1. I am still annoyed at his apprehension because the world is about to end.
I guess I’m not into mecha stuff at all lol.
Check out the movie "Pacific rim". If that doesn't get to you, then I'd say you're not into mecha stuff.
There's a scene where a mecha is punching a kaiju again and again and the punches just aren't hard enough, so it activatues MASSIVE JET ENGINES IN ITS ELBOWS so it can PUNCH HARDER and then it PULLS OUT A SWORD FROM ITS THIGH.
There's also a Chinese and a russian mecha and they're very cool. The russian mecha has a nuclear reactor and it is best described as being a Kruschevka come to life.
Is it for the Shinji thing? Or is it just for watching anime?
Yeah there's people telling me why he doesn't wanna get in the robot, and I get why he doesn't wanna get in the robot. It's like they miss out on the fact that I'm describing the very first scene and then they just take all the discourse from the entire show and assume something about me.
It's cool that this is a deconstruction, but should I watch a mecha anime to hvae something that can be deconstructed? Should I watch gundam and if so, which one?
We've been thru this before? From the people replying to me with negativity, it seems like it's yet another case of "not fully reading thru what the other is writing" so just miscommunication and frustration
Been there, but it was pokemon and I wasn't even a teen.
yeah I know, now get in the robot.
I've got both ADHD and depression, I know what it looks like. I am also capable of observing very obvious signs of trauma, like most people. If you're going to start a discussion, please assume that basic shit isn't lost to me, just because I don't share your point of view.
I've talked to most of your other points a bunch already in this thread. I am neither denying nor downplaying his mental state. I think most people would balk at the idea of going inside a giant robot which will almost certainly kill you, but it is still funny to say "get in the robot". That funny comes in part because the world is seemingly about to end, so buddy get in the robot FFS.
It's just so much of old anime that gets to me like this. Akira, ghost in the shell, Paprika, all things Miyazaki
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Rob Lucci and his sorry ass gets TOLD he can't deal with Luffy and he goes "nah I'd win" and then gets fucking bonked immediately and it is hilarious. The guy is like "you haven't seen my ultimate form" and Luffy is like SIKE TALK TO MY FIST I KNOW HAKI NOW and it is so so so good. Don't look up the fight though, there are actual spoilers tied to it.
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It's very good so far!