Cammy

I'm ND, so yeah, I guess I would be perceiving meat in a different way. I can't help but make the connection to animal consumption when eating fake meat.

I sometimes see western culture as drawn to an imitation if they can't afford the original. I feel like if we keep a door open on replication, there will be an obsession with the authentic or the original. Like rich bros a hundred years from now getting authentic steak with the belief that it's somehow better than whatever we can replicate. So even if it's perfectly replicated, having the original is somehow better.

I feel like if we step away from items or aesthetics associated with meat, we can step away from the desire from the real thing. Like totally divorce ourselves from the animal as much as we can.

I feel like by holding onto aesthetics reminiscent of meat, we might never get to the point of making eating an animal as equally unthinkable as eating a person.

That said, I think there are things like nuggets or sausages, or patties that can be easy enough to separate from animals. The principle is pretty uniform regardless of the components. Take a source of protein, grind it up, and cook it. Sure, I can abstract far enough to know that animals are made of protein, and can thus have their parts made into a nugget, but that just feels like a basic understanding of biology and cooking.

But yeah, I've thought a lot about this with the assumption technology can and likely will get to perfect replication.

Great, now an AI can use social media to coerce me instead of just my peers from high school.

But hey, my federal agent could use a vacation.

I do the, 'I'm here' and let my circumstances speak for themselves.

If my mother had to apologize for me doing shit like this, to the point of describing me as a creep, I would be too ashamed to ever leave the house again.

I think I understand where you're coming from. I will be more mindful with my framing in the future.

So correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea is that if we can perfectly replicate a steak, as long as no animals are hurt in the process, that's totally fine?

I guess at that point, animal details on a piece of meat are purely aesthetic and wouldn't inherently make people more violent towards animals. It feels wrong to me, but I see how that's more of a 'me' thing.

Thanks for replying the way you did.

~~I think trying to imitate meat goes against some of the basic philosophy of veganism. We should move away from trying to get the taste of animal blood and fat to make a meaty flavor. It's trying to create the illusion of commodified animal suffering. At least that's how I see it.

It's energy and resources better spent on making food available to others.

And besides, meat just isn't that healthy.~~

Edit - tried to cross out what I said.

Oh my god I'd love a world where 'how are you' can be answered honestly or never asked at all.

This relative checks so many terrible boxes for things you hate in gaming and fiction that I wonder if he was created in a lab just to torment you.

I wish folks like that would get isekai'd into their treat worlds only to discover that 'realism' would utterly fuck them up.

This reminds me of that story here a while back about the autistic man who didn't react appropriately to someone's death and being convicted of murder.

It's fucking bleak out here that we have to make Oscar- winning emotional performances to convince people we have feelings.

I think masking as a concept gets mistaken as just concealing ND traits, when there is this element of forced emoting involved as well. You're actively masking when you force a smile to convince a person that you're actually happy. God forbid you can't cry on command to align with the pain you're feeling.

If someone tells you they're feeling a certain way, just believe them. You have nothing to lose.

He's supposed to be this big brained genius and this is the way he approaches humor? This is the way he talks?

I mean fuck SNL, but he has the chance to do a comedy skit to an audience of milions and the best he could come up with is to flash people? I knew he wasn't funny, but god damn that's pathetic.

He's a fucking billionaire with all the time in the world. If he wasn't so fucking arrogant, he could hire a comedy writer to coach him. He could take lessons. He could buy any number of books. Hell, he could go on YouTube and watch a video for free.

I dunno where I'm going with this, but I have a complicated relationship with IQ and genius and what that looks like in a person, so to see this creatively bankrupt person pass himself as this Tony Stark witty genius feels a little jokerfying.

Oh yeah, same. It's just magical thinking and offers of nostalgia.

Oh hell.